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The results are mixed at best, but the defund movement exists https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/08/13/at-least-13-cities-are-defunding-their-polic

The results are mixed at best, but the defund movement exists https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/08/13/at-least-13-cities-are-defunding-their-police-departments/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/08/13/at-leas... https://theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community https://theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund...

tptacek 4y ago
Every movement exists. There are lots of people in the world.
- chaostheory 4y ago
  … and there is a movement to wind down police forces in the US.
  - tptacek 4y ago
    There is a movement to teach students that the Earth is flat, too.
    - chaostheory 4y ago
      For the record, I’m not saying whether or not the movement is good or bad, I’m just saying it exists and it has enough political weight for the mainstream media to cover it. I am trying hard to be neutral even though our politics likely align
      - tptacek 4y ago
        The reason I know that there's a movement to teach that the Earth is flat is because the mainstream media covered it.
        SoftTalker 4y ago
        Why would the mainstream media waste its and our time covering a whacko fringe movement such as "the Earth is flat" rather than things that actually affect the world or the local community in a real way. People who think the earth is flat, or we've never landed on the moon, or that the world will end when the Mayan calendar runs out of days, just don't matter and should not be recognized as if they do.
        chaostheory 4y ago
        What’s your point? I’m not arguing their merit. They both exist contrary to your first comment where you claim that it didn’t exist. You’re objectively wrong. At least have the grace to concede
        tptacek 4y ago
        Nobody is winding down police forces, is what I said, not that you couldn't find some group of people on Twitter saying that we should. I'm not worried that any public school in the nation is going to teach about the atmosflat, and you don't need to worry about police abolition.
        chaostheory 4y ago
        Yes, let’s completely ignore the Guardian article. The difference between the two is that one is a source of amusement while the other group has already affected public policy and budgets. It’s estimated that there are 3 million flat earthers in the US, while there are approximately 50 million people who supported the defund the police movement in 2021. Unlike the flat earth people, the defund the police populist movement actually has political clout and they have changed budgets for several police departments. If you stick your head in the ground, the progressive populists don’t magically go away You’re wrong
        tptacek 4y ago
        I think you might be on tilt. It's just a message board; I think we can be comfortable with what the thread says about our respective arguments, and wrap it up right here.

tptacek 4y ago

Every movement exists. There are lots of people in the world.

chaostheory 4y ago
… and there is a movement to wind down police forces in the US.
- tptacek 4y ago
  There is a movement to teach students that the Earth is flat, too.
  - chaostheory 4y ago
    For the record, I’m not saying whether or not the movement is good or bad, I’m just saying it exists and it has enough political weight for the mainstream media to cover it. I am trying hard to be neutral even though our politics likely align
    - tptacek 4y ago
      The reason I know that there's a movement to teach that the Earth is flat is because the mainstream media covered it.
      - SoftTalker 4y ago
        Why would the mainstream media waste its and our time covering a whacko fringe movement such as "the Earth is flat" rather than things that actually affect the world or the local community in a real way. People who think the earth is flat, or we've never landed on the moon, or that the world will end when the Mayan calendar runs out of days, just don't matter and should not be recognized as if they do.
      - chaostheory 4y ago
        What’s your point? I’m not arguing their merit. They both exist contrary to your first comment where you claim that it didn’t exist. You’re objectively wrong. At least have the grace to concede
        tptacek 4y ago
        Nobody is winding down police forces, is what I said, not that you couldn't find some group of people on Twitter saying that we should. I'm not worried that any public school in the nation is going to teach about the atmosflat, and you don't need to worry about police abolition.
        chaostheory 4y ago
        Yes, let’s completely ignore the Guardian article. The difference between the two is that one is a source of amusement while the other group has already affected public policy and budgets. It’s estimated that there are 3 million flat earthers in the US, while there are approximately 50 million people who supported the defund the police movement in 2021. Unlike the flat earth people, the defund the police populist movement actually has political clout and they have changed budgets for several police departments. If you stick your head in the ground, the progressive populists don’t magically go away You’re wrong
        tptacek 4y ago
        I think you might be on tilt. It's just a message board; I think we can be comfortable with what the thread says about our respective arguments, and wrap it up right here.