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Yes like in london. I bought a 24h pass at 8pm, only to find out it's 24h only if you buy it at 00.00, because they all expire at midnight. They are basically

Yes like in london. I bought a 24h pass at 8pm, only to find out it's 24h only if you buy it at 00.00, because they all expire at midnight. They are basically running a legalised tourist scam over there. I can imagine hundreds of thousands of people falling for this.

Symbiote 3y ago
In London, aren't you pushed towards using a contactless credit or debit card? (They expire at 4am, though the point remains.)
- ghaff 3y ago
  Oyster cards still seem to be pretty common though I think you can use contactless credit cards in a lot of situations these these days.
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    Commuters with monthly or longer tickets will need to use an Oyster card, but anyone with only weekly, daily or individual tickets is fine with a contactless credit card. I think only foreign tourists who don't have a credit/debit card, or whose banks levy a high, fixed charge per card transaction, or who are eligible for some other discount (foreign children age 5-17) should buy an Oyster card.
    - bombolo 3y ago
      I'm sure tourists are aware of all this tricks in the first 30 minutes that they are in london /s
    - iggldiggl 3y ago
      > but anyone with only weekly […] tickets is fine with a contactless credit card 1. The weekly capping always runs Monday to Sunday, so if your stay doesn't align with that, you'll get to pay an additional capping period, in which case buying a weekly travelcard aligned with your stay will likely be cheaper (as long as you know which zones you'll mainly require). 2. Having a travelcard gives you the ability to buy slightly cheaper rail tickets for destinations outside of the TfL zones. Pay-as-you-go doesn't, unless you physically get off the train in order to touch in/out at the boundary. 3. Transit nerds only: Pay-as-you-go is subject to certain maximum journey times. If you'll exceed those by staying to long within the system, you'll be presumed to have forgotten to touch out and will be charged a maximum fare. A travelcard avoids that issue.

Symbiote 3y ago

In London, aren't you pushed towards using a contactless credit or debit card? (They expire at 4am, though the point remains.)

ghaff 3y ago
Oyster cards still seem to be pretty common though I think you can use contactless credit cards in a lot of situations these these days.
- Symbiote 3y ago
  Commuters with monthly or longer tickets will need to use an Oyster card, but anyone with only weekly, daily or individual tickets is fine with a contactless credit card. I think only foreign tourists who don't have a credit/debit card, or whose banks levy a high, fixed charge per card transaction, or who are eligible for some other discount (foreign children age 5-17) should buy an Oyster card.
  - bombolo 3y ago
    I'm sure tourists are aware of all this tricks in the first 30 minutes that they are in london /s
  - iggldiggl 3y ago
    > but anyone with only weekly […] tickets is fine with a contactless credit card 1. The weekly capping always runs Monday to Sunday, so if your stay doesn't align with that, you'll get to pay an additional capping period, in which case buying a weekly travelcard aligned with your stay will likely be cheaper (as long as you know which zones you'll mainly require). 2. Having a travelcard gives you the ability to buy slightly cheaper rail tickets for destinations outside of the TfL zones. Pay-as-you-go doesn't, unless you physically get off the train in order to touch in/out at the boundary. 3. Transit nerds only: Pay-as-you-go is subject to certain maximum journey times. If you'll exceed those by staying to long within the system, you'll be presumed to have forgotten to touch out and will be charged a maximum fare. A travelcard avoids that issue.