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If you truly want to know what I think and why I think it, feel free to email me and take this discussion off HN. You can find my contact through my profile.
by FooBarWidget 3y ago
If you truly want to know what I think and why I think it, feel free to email me and take this discussion off HN. You can find my contact through my profile.
- catiopatio 3y agoIf you can’t make the case for China’s authoritarian capitalism here, I don’t see how picking it up over e-mail is going to help. It’s also counterproductive to take the debate offline, as further discussion would be for the benefit of anyone else that might read this thread. I’ll never agree that lifting people out of poverty requires authoritarian control over the populace.
- DiogenesKynikos 3y agoIt's not necessarily that it requires authoritarian rule, but rather that if you grew up in a rich country, you have a very different view on what is important. Internet censorship generally ranks very low on your list of concerns if you're struggling to put food on the table. People in China have seen a complete transformation of their lives for the better, in just a few decades. They've gone from bicycles to electric cars, from not having reliable electricity to paying for everything with 5G-connected smartphones. From the point of view of how people live their everyday lives, things are better than ever. Issues like censorship will become more important over time, but right now, they're still secondary. There are other issues at play as well, such as the legitimacy the Party still enjoys from the revolution and from its management of the economic boom of the last few decades, and people's fear of the sort of chaos that consumed China for much of its modern history.
- FooBarWidget 3y agoIt's not a case of not having arguments. HN moderators told me not to talk too much about China on HN. It's just me following the rules.