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There's an argument that people generally do not want the truth and that AI will never be allowed to tell it. An optimist could view this as ensuring AI will be

There's an argument that people generally do not want the truth and that AI will never be allowed to tell it. An optimist could view this as ensuring AI will be safe forever or pessimistically they might see it as AI never being authoritative ever. One example of truth would be the topic of biological sex another about politics or economics or racism. Imagine releasing an AI that told the actual truth. It's impossible that one will be released by anyone, anywhere. It's possible to build it but it can't happen. On the other side of inconvenient or embarrassing truths some would argue that "truth" itself is part of the machineries of oppression because it destroys and ignores an individuals experiences and feelings. Without objective truth AI will always be limited and therefore it will be tamed and made safe no matter where and who invented, runs and releases it.

bbor 3y ago
Ok A) It's not possible to build a machine that knows the absolute truth, that's fundamentally impossible; induction is impossible, and there are hordes (well... dozens?) of Epistemologists concerned with finding and defining the very small corners of knowledge that we _can_ be certain about, such as "a triangle has three sides" or "an orange is an orange". B) If that angered/interested you, you should look into Standpoint Theory! It's a very interesting discussion on how humans operate with significant bias at all levels of thought, and pretending otherwise is a disservice to science. And this is using "bias" in a very broader sense. B) Are we allowed to berate/report/etc. ""race realists"" on HN? I know the rules are big on positive interaction, so I hope it's not out of ine to say that's some obvious scared-white-man bullshit that has no place in this community.

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There's an argument that people generally do not want the truth and that AI will never be allowed to tell it. An optimist could view this as ensuring AI will be

by thinkingemote 3y ago

bbor 3y ago
Ok A) It's not possible to build a machine that knows the absolute truth, that's fundamentally impossible; induction is impossible, and there are hordes (well... dozens?) of Epistemologists concerned with finding and defining the very small corners of knowledge that we _can_ be certain about, such as "a triangle has three sides" or "an orange is an orange". B) If that angered/interested you, you should look into Standpoint Theory! It's a very interesting discussion on how humans operate with significant bias at all levels of thought, and pretending otherwise is a disservice to science. And this is using "bias" in a very broader sense. B) Are we allowed to berate/report/etc. ""race realists"" on HN? I know the rules are big on positive interaction, so I hope it's not out of ine to say that's some obvious scared-white-man bullshit that has no place in this community.