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Cuba is facing a famine right now. Communism was the cause of authoritarianism in china and the ussr. It's not possible to have a command economy run by humans

Cuba is facing a famine right now. Communism was the cause of authoritarianism in china and the ussr. It's not possible to have a command economy run by humans without eventually having the leader be an authoritarian. Capitalism did not cause people to be greedy, they were already greedy. Capitalism just embraces our nature and aligns incentives while communism pretends people can be changed to not follow incentives.

positron6000 4y ago
> Cuba is facing a famine right now Because the US has embargoed Cuba for decades to cause hunger and desperation: > If such a policy is adopted, it should be the result of a positive decision which would call forth a line of action which, while as adroit and inconspicuous as possible, makes the greatest inroads in denying money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government. - https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v06/d499 https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v06... Citation needed on all your other claims.
- monero-xmr 4y ago
  Cuba is not embargoed by Canada, the EU, and so on, so the USA not providing food is certainly not a valid argument. https://www.eeas.europa.eu/cuba/european-union-and-cuba_en?s=136#:~:text=Investments%2C%20exchanges%20and%20undertakings,main%20export%20and%20trade%20partner https://www.eeas.europa.eu/cuba/european-union-and-cuba_en?s....
  - runarberg 4y ago
    The USA embargo in Cuba is not causing a famine because there is no famine. So you’re vitamin A deficiency did not cause your black eye, because you have enough vitamin B and C, and also you don’t have a black eye. Also the embargo de jure excludes food and medicine (although de facto it is hard to export those to Cuba), but also subsidiaries of USA companies are also not allowed to trade with Cuba, so Canadian and EU companies which do business in the USA (which is almost everybody) are risking a lot by trading with Cuba, so in effect the embargo is somewhat extended by large parts of EU and Canada.
- zdragnar 4y ago
  The parent to the post you responded to literally said > Cuba has yet to experience a famine despite being under a severe embargo for several decades.
runarberg 4y ago
I don’t know where you get your news from, but no. There is currently no famine happening in Cuba. There is a fuel shortage (like there is in many other countries). But there is still enough food for everybody, and (unlike in many other neighboring countries) the food is distributed such that hunger is relatively rare, and mass hunger—let alone a famine—is unheard of. The cost of living is still significantly lower than the median income, despite the energy crisis and despite the embargo. I honestly don’t know where you’ve heard this. I searched the news for a famine in Cuba, and nothing came up, not even unreliable sources. Where did you hear this?

positron6000 4y ago

> Cuba is facing a famine right now Because the US has embargoed Cuba for decades to cause hunger and desperation: > If such a policy is adopted, it should be the result of a positive decision which would call forth a line of action which, while as adroit and inconspicuous as possible, makes the greatest inroads in denying money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government. - https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v06/d499 https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v06... Citation needed on all your other claims.

monero-xmr 4y ago
Cuba is not embargoed by Canada, the EU, and so on, so the USA not providing food is certainly not a valid argument. https://www.eeas.europa.eu/cuba/european-union-and-cuba_en?s=136#:~:text=Investments%2C%20exchanges%20and%20undertakings,main%20export%20and%20trade%20partner https://www.eeas.europa.eu/cuba/european-union-and-cuba_en?s....
- runarberg 4y ago
  The USA embargo in Cuba is not causing a famine because there is no famine. So you’re vitamin A deficiency did not cause your black eye, because you have enough vitamin B and C, and also you don’t have a black eye. Also the embargo de jure excludes food and medicine (although de facto it is hard to export those to Cuba), but also subsidiaries of USA companies are also not allowed to trade with Cuba, so Canadian and EU companies which do business in the USA (which is almost everybody) are risking a lot by trading with Cuba, so in effect the embargo is somewhat extended by large parts of EU and Canada.
zdragnar 4y ago
The parent to the post you responded to literally said > Cuba has yet to experience a famine despite being under a severe embargo for several decades.

runarberg 4y ago

I don’t know where you get your news from, but no. There is currently no famine happening in Cuba. There is a fuel shortage (like there is in many other countries). But there is still enough food for everybody, and (unlike in many other neighboring countries) the food is distributed such that hunger is relatively rare, and mass hunger—let alone a famine—is unheard of. The cost of living is still significantly lower than the median income, despite the energy crisis and despite the embargo. I honestly don’t know where you’ve heard this. I searched the news for a famine in Cuba, and nothing came up, not even unreliable sources. Where did you hear this?