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Private jets seem like a great starting point for mandating use of net-zero synthetic jet fuel. Sure it's 5x the cost of regular fuel, but fuel isn't the bigges

by jl6 4y ago

Private jets seem like a great starting point for mandating use of net-zero synthetic jet fuel. Sure it's 5x the cost of regular fuel, but fuel isn't the biggest cost of owning a private jet, and these people are amongst the least price sensitive.

antisthenes 4y ago
Also helps companies that make synthetic net-zero fuels achieve economies of scale faster, thus paving the way for net-zero fuels for wider adoption in other industries, e.g. trucking
- nadermx 4y ago
  For those just as curios, https://www.iata.org/en/iata-repository/pressroom/fact-sheets/fact-sheet---alternative-fuels/ https://www.iata.org/en/iata-repository/pressroom/fact-sheet...
aeternum 4y ago
Not really, the aircraft industry has been trying for 30+ years to remove lead from aviation fuel. It's incredibly difficult because of the wide variety of engines, the regulation involved, and the fact that failed engines can easily lead to death (and fuel is a common-mode failure). Private jets also fly relatively rarely. We should really start with powerplants. It's ridiculous to still be getting the vast majority of our electricity from fossil fuels. There is very little risk to human life there, and massive potential benefit. Many of these plants run 24/7 so you get massive benefits.
- _djo_ 4y ago
  There is no lead in Jet A1, as used on private jets, airliners, military aircraft, etc. Lead is only still part of AvGas, used on piston-engined general aviation aircraft. It’s finally being phased out now.
Yizahi 4y ago
"net-zero"-whatever is most likely a dishonest thing. We should mandate that every private jet ownership should come with a mandatory greenhouse gas sequestration and storage amount per year, all independently accounted. No bullshit like "buying" patches of Amazonian forest and claiming them as a compensations for emissions. Only real compensation should be accepted - emit X tons of gasses -> extract same amount from the atmosphere. No industrial scale extraction exists or it's all already booked? Stay grounded for a while and fly coach :) .

by jl6 4y ago

antisthenes 4y ago

Also helps companies that make synthetic net-zero fuels achieve economies of scale faster, thus paving the way for net-zero fuels for wider adoption in other industries, e.g. trucking

nadermx 4y ago
For those just as curios, https://www.iata.org/en/iata-repository/pressroom/fact-sheets/fact-sheet---alternative-fuels/ https://www.iata.org/en/iata-repository/pressroom/fact-sheet...

aeternum 4y ago

Not really, the aircraft industry has been trying for 30+ years to remove lead from aviation fuel. It's incredibly difficult because of the wide variety of engines, the regulation involved, and the fact that failed engines can easily lead to death (and fuel is a common-mode failure). Private jets also fly relatively rarely. We should really start with powerplants. It's ridiculous to still be getting the vast majority of our electricity from fossil fuels. There is very little risk to human life there, and massive potential benefit. Many of these plants run 24/7 so you get massive benefits.

_djo_ 4y ago
There is no lead in Jet A1, as used on private jets, airliners, military aircraft, etc. Lead is only still part of AvGas, used on piston-engined general aviation aircraft. It’s finally being phased out now.

Yizahi 4y ago

"net-zero"-whatever is most likely a dishonest thing. We should mandate that every private jet ownership should come with a mandatory greenhouse gas sequestration and storage amount per year, all independently accounted. No bullshit like "buying" patches of Amazonian forest and claiming them as a compensations for emissions. Only real compensation should be accepted - emit X tons of gasses -> extract same amount from the atmosphere. No industrial scale extraction exists or it's all already booked? Stay grounded for a while and fly coach :) .