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It's going to get more interesting or disgusting depending on your compass (no judgement either way here) when robots are connected to this as that reminds me o

It's going to get more interesting or disgusting depending on your compass (no judgement either way here) when robots are connected to this as that reminds me of times Elon was snickering when talking about Optimus and "other uses".

thedailymail 3y ago
There's an interesting set of ethical questions surrounding the ways that people with socially unaccepted preferences/fetishes use technology to satisfy forbidden urges. If we accept that individuals aren't able to (and generally shouldn't have to) control what they find sexually attractive, then it seems admirable to be able to use tech in ways that don't harm any actual people. If LLM erotic roleplay begins to replace the highly exploitative realworld porn industry (which of course uses real humans, many of them psychologically, socially or financially vulnerable), that seems like progress.
- sebringj 3y ago
  Agreed...up until the point these things become sentient then we'll have a time unravelling that mess.
- xp84 3y ago
  I definitely see the logic in your statement (and it seems like tech/logic-oriented people tend to agree with you and me), but I lament that most of society operates on a much more "feelings-based" basis, and thus they generally see something like "$Person engaged in a detailed $deepTaboo simulation with computer using the $SoftwareProduct" and start looking around for someone to crucify (usually both $Person and the owner of $SoftwareProduct) for 'promoting' $deepTaboo -- without asking "who was harmed?" Even if the constitution is actually consulted and the parties are spared pearl-clutching prosecution about it, the court of public opinion will punish the company just as hard, pressuring gatekeepers like Apple to ban it, etc. And thanks to the deep, disturbing taboos that can be involved, it's super hard to find someone who will stick their neck out to challenge all this. I know I wouldn't, because I know I would be immediately branded as "Joe Bloggs, Fan and Advocate of (Insert disgusting perversion)" I wonder if this is something more advanced societies would come to terms with. I know ours is not equipped to handle it in a smart way.

thedailymail 3y ago

There's an interesting set of ethical questions surrounding the ways that people with socially unaccepted preferences/fetishes use technology to satisfy forbidden urges. If we accept that individuals aren't able to (and generally shouldn't have to) control what they find sexually attractive, then it seems admirable to be able to use tech in ways that don't harm any actual people. If LLM erotic roleplay begins to replace the highly exploitative realworld porn industry (which of course uses real humans, many of them psychologically, socially or financially vulnerable), that seems like progress.

sebringj 3y ago
Agreed...up until the point these things become sentient then we'll have a time unravelling that mess.
xp84 3y ago
I definitely see the logic in your statement (and it seems like tech/logic-oriented people tend to agree with you and me), but I lament that most of society operates on a much more "feelings-based" basis, and thus they generally see something like "$Person engaged in a detailed $deepTaboo simulation with computer using the $SoftwareProduct" and start looking around for someone to crucify (usually both $Person and the owner of $SoftwareProduct) for 'promoting' $deepTaboo -- without asking "who was harmed?" Even if the constitution is actually consulted and the parties are spared pearl-clutching prosecution about it, the court of public opinion will punish the company just as hard, pressuring gatekeepers like Apple to ban it, etc. And thanks to the deep, disturbing taboos that can be involved, it's super hard to find someone who will stick their neck out to challenge all this. I know I wouldn't, because I know I would be immediately branded as "Joe Bloggs, Fan and Advocate of (Insert disgusting perversion)" I wonder if this is something more advanced societies would come to terms with. I know ours is not equipped to handle it in a smart way.