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It helps that the mormon faith is fairly harmless as far as religions go. Aside from maybe polygamy and abuse cases, there are few explicit conflicts of interes
by KRAKRISMOTT 3y ago
It helps that the mormon faith is fairly harmless as far as religions go. Aside from maybe polygamy and abuse cases, there are few explicit conflicts of interests. The LDS church runs hedge funds and have a somewhat less extreme political orientation than e.g. southern baptists or Scientologists . Most Mormons actually practice the family values they preach, unlike say evangelicals.
- ttpphd 3y ago[flagged]
- mensetmanusman 3y ago[flagged]
- ttpphd 3y ago[flagged]
- mensetmanusman 3y agoYou are more than free to do so, I’m just letting you know that there are more productive means in case anyone hasn’t told you before :)
- ttpphd 3y ago[flagged]
- yamazakiwi 3y agoThey never called them bigots. They're saying that the Church funds anti-lgbtq legislation and implying the Church is not completely harmless. It's weird of you to accuse them so confidently when you misunderstood.
- giraffe_lady 3y ago"Productive" is a judgement about tactics that like-minded people can disagree on. Calling someone a bigot isn't an indictment of their soul or character or motivations. It is a shorthand for describing their actions. Mormonism frequently works towards and supports discriminatory policies, and so can reasonably be described as bigoted. They can individually act differently, but if you're associated with a politically active abrahamic religion you're gonna have to carry that cross, so to speak. No one owes anyone the benefit of the doubt on this.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoCertainly, but shorthand usually gets corrupted by sloganeering and shuts down productive discussions over preference. Once you realize all politics is preference, it’s illuminating to consider more nuanced strategy.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoNo, I simply don't accept that politics is preference. Politics is in some ways the physical manifestations of our values into the world. They affect people in real and profound ways. A "preference" for the subservience or disenfranchisement of certain people, for example, is no mere preference.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoI actually agree with what you wrote, but it’s interesting to note that many fewer people believe in universal values. Many now believe that values are a preference (this is not something I believe, though, as I believe in objective morality, with the caveat that I realize it’s just a belief, like a belief in angels or something).