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It would be helpful to have some description regarding why some entries made the naughty list. For example, is there evidence that iOS sends data to PRISM? Has

It would be helpful to have some description regarding why some entries made the naughty list. For example, is there evidence that iOS sends data to PRISM? Has any analysis shown that Safari leaks any more data than Firefox?

swapfile 4y ago
It probably goes along the lines of: "It is impossible to download and examine iOS's source code, which means that it is impossible to prove that iOS is not spyware. Any program which does not make its source code available is potential spyware." Which I agree with. I'm not going to trust and put as much personal data as a smartphone usually contains into a proprietary black box.
KennyBlanken 4y ago
Yeah, this bit: > "Apple iOS devices are affected by PRISM. Even using the software tools we recommend here, your privacy may be compromised by iOS itself. The operating system of any device can unfortunately lever out any privacy protection that a program tries to offer you." ...made me conclude that these people are idiots. You don't need to activate iCloud on an iPhone and you can use standard stuff like IMAP and WebDAV to sync contacts and calendars etc. There's also a huge list of telemetry controls you can shut off in the OS. Not to mention they have the best physical and OS security of any mobile device. Suggesting that a small homebrew Android ROM, maintained by anonymous individuals, which hasn't seen any security updates in almost a year, is comparable in terms of end-user privacy is ludicrous.
- amatecha 4y ago
  I didn't use iCloud yet Apple Customer Support was able to directly send a "remote access request" to my iPhone, years ago, which I simply had to press "accept" and they were able to remote-control my phone and see everything on screen. There's no reason the OS can't allow that exact same comprehensive remote access, without asking my permission. There's also no reason Apple can't surreptitiously introduce new back doors with any given iOS update -- especially considering the new "urgent update" functionality they recently introduced.

swapfile 4y ago

It probably goes along the lines of: "It is impossible to download and examine iOS's source code, which means that it is impossible to prove that iOS is not spyware. Any program which does not make its source code available is potential spyware." Which I agree with. I'm not going to trust and put as much personal data as a smartphone usually contains into a proprietary black box.

KennyBlanken 4y ago

Yeah, this bit: > "Apple iOS devices are affected by PRISM. Even using the software tools we recommend here, your privacy may be compromised by iOS itself. The operating system of any device can unfortunately lever out any privacy protection that a program tries to offer you." ...made me conclude that these people are idiots. You don't need to activate iCloud on an iPhone and you can use standard stuff like IMAP and WebDAV to sync contacts and calendars etc. There's also a huge list of telemetry controls you can shut off in the OS. Not to mention they have the best physical and OS security of any mobile device. Suggesting that a small homebrew Android ROM, maintained by anonymous individuals, which hasn't seen any security updates in almost a year, is comparable in terms of end-user privacy is ludicrous.

amatecha 4y ago
I didn't use iCloud yet Apple Customer Support was able to directly send a "remote access request" to my iPhone, years ago, which I simply had to press "accept" and they were able to remote-control my phone and see everything on screen. There's no reason the OS can't allow that exact same comprehensive remote access, without asking my permission. There's also no reason Apple can't surreptitiously introduce new back doors with any given iOS update -- especially considering the new "urgent update" functionality they recently introduced.