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I like X, but many people saying X is enough are coding on a crappy hardware and crappy screen in a bitmap font and browsing the web through Lynx. There is mor

by sph 4y ago

I like X, but many people saying X is enough are coding on a crappy hardware and crappy screen in a bitmap font and browsing the web through Lynx. There is more to computing than 80s tech, and if one's opinion is that anything after the 80s is useless, then they're blind and biased. I loved WindowMaker too, two decades ago, but I enjoy 2023 computing in 2023. And WindowMaker is already more advanced than fvwm or twm or any other DE that pairs well with xterm (you know, those that still use X11 fontspec strings instead of a modern font stack). Wayland is a buggy mess, but I like hardware video acceleration, resizing windows without artifacts, compositing and one day VR, you know, technology from last decade, thank you very much.

asveikau 4y ago
> I loved WindowMaker too, two decades ago, but I enjoy 2023 computing in 2023 What do you use now? Most things I've seen after that generation of WMs kind of suck. Newer tiled WMs are good but that's kind of a different category. > hardware video acceleration, resizing windows without artifacts, compositing You can get that on X...
- sph 4y ago
  They all suck. I use GNOME, KDE is terribly buggy, I'd like to use Sway but it's still shit with hidpi screens (because of a missing feature in xwayland, go figure. KDE and GNOME have a hacky workaround, not Sway because no one of its devs has a screen with more than 96 dpi apparently) In fact, tiled WMs are 90s tech, I want scrollable tiling WMs, and they are niche or pretty much unknown. See PaperWM or Cardboard https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/cardboardwm.html https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/cardboardwm.html Re: hardware accel on X. I have been using Linux full time since 1999, yet I keep hearing people trying to convince me whatever crap we had before Mozilla WebRender on Wayland was hardware acceleration. Having VLC use VDPAU when opening media files is not full desktop hardware acceleration. It has taken until Wayland to be able to move and resize windows without artefacts and lag. Stuff Windows and macOS have had since 2010. Let alone accelerated rendering of web pages and YouTube.

by sph 4y ago

asveikau 4y ago

> I loved WindowMaker too, two decades ago, but I enjoy 2023 computing in 2023 What do you use now? Most things I've seen after that generation of WMs kind of suck. Newer tiled WMs are good but that's kind of a different category. > hardware video acceleration, resizing windows without artifacts, compositing You can get that on X...

sph 4y ago
They all suck. I use GNOME, KDE is terribly buggy, I'd like to use Sway but it's still shit with hidpi screens (because of a missing feature in xwayland, go figure. KDE and GNOME have a hacky workaround, not Sway because no one of its devs has a screen with more than 96 dpi apparently) In fact, tiled WMs are 90s tech, I want scrollable tiling WMs, and they are niche or pretty much unknown. See PaperWM or Cardboard https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/cardboardwm.html https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/cardboardwm.html Re: hardware accel on X. I have been using Linux full time since 1999, yet I keep hearing people trying to convince me whatever crap we had before Mozilla WebRender on Wayland was hardware acceleration. Having VLC use VDPAU when opening media files is not full desktop hardware acceleration. It has taken until Wayland to be able to move and resize windows without artefacts and lag. Stuff Windows and macOS have had since 2010. Let alone accelerated rendering of web pages and YouTube.