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Interesting that big flu outbreaks cause a long term spike in Parkinson's - how much more will be traced back to the impact of viruses? Saw that come up as a w

Interesting that big flu outbreaks cause a long term spike in Parkinson's - how much more will be traced back to the impact of viruses? Saw that come up as a worry around Covid, seems the loss of smell/taste is a commonality with Parkison. We will not know for a decade or two though, but these biomarkers might help accelerate measuring the impact.

graeme 3y ago
It’s very plausible in 10-20 years or so. Studies found a massive increase in acting out of dreams amongst those who had Covid. This acting out of dreams is a very strong precursor to Parkinson’s. According to this, 80% of people with it get Parkinson’s within 20 years. https://www.salon.com/2023/04/24/long-parkinsons/ https://www.salon.com/2023/04/24/long-parkinsons/
- yosito 3y ago
  Well that certainly puts a dark twist on the phrase "living the dream".
Workaccount2 3y ago
I am currently struggling with the idea of going back to vaping, having quit 3 years ago following covid, because nicotine has consistently shown to be a strong drug for fending off parkinsons.
- sbmsr 3y ago
  Would nicotine patches help?
  - Workaccount2 3y ago
    I could do that, but I smoked cigarettes for 7 years and then vaped for 9 years. So I don't know if I could jump back into nicotine but hold off on the smoking/vaping aspect of it.
    - sph 3y ago
      Funny tangent, I quit vaping on 2 Jan 2020 after the worst flu I have ever had (after a flight abroad.. early COVID?) and while I was finally successful after a decade of quitting, it killed all my motivation and energy. Then I got diagnosed with ADHD, got stimulant meds which restored the energy and then some, and it was clear I had been self medicating all my life with nicotine and I was completely lost without. If one day I lose access to stimulant meds, you better believe I'm back on the patch and/or the vape. But in general dude, do not joke about nicotine. You are 3 years clean, it's incredibly hard to quit. If you done it once, it doesn't mean you'll do it twice. Maybe avoiding Parkinson's by vaping is a terrible excuse. You've never known addiction if you believe this time you'll be able to control it.
- karussell 3y ago
  Do you have any sources? Or did you mean that ironically, because as a smoker you die earlier than the average gets Parkinson's?
  - Workaccount2 3y ago
    It's well established that nicotine fends off parkinsons (but won't do anything if started when sympoms appear) https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C31&q=nicotine+and+parkinsons&btnG= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C31&q=nic...
- eutectic 3y ago
  Seriously? You can't think of a more efficient use of the time and money?

graeme 3y ago

It’s very plausible in 10-20 years or so. Studies found a massive increase in acting out of dreams amongst those who had Covid. This acting out of dreams is a very strong precursor to Parkinson’s. According to this, 80% of people with it get Parkinson’s within 20 years. https://www.salon.com/2023/04/24/long-parkinsons/ https://www.salon.com/2023/04/24/long-parkinsons/

yosito 3y ago
Well that certainly puts a dark twist on the phrase "living the dream".

Workaccount2 3y ago

I am currently struggling with the idea of going back to vaping, having quit 3 years ago following covid, because nicotine has consistently shown to be a strong drug for fending off parkinsons.

sbmsr 3y ago
Would nicotine patches help?
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  I could do that, but I smoked cigarettes for 7 years and then vaped for 9 years. So I don't know if I could jump back into nicotine but hold off on the smoking/vaping aspect of it.
  - sph 3y ago
    Funny tangent, I quit vaping on 2 Jan 2020 after the worst flu I have ever had (after a flight abroad.. early COVID?) and while I was finally successful after a decade of quitting, it killed all my motivation and energy. Then I got diagnosed with ADHD, got stimulant meds which restored the energy and then some, and it was clear I had been self medicating all my life with nicotine and I was completely lost without. If one day I lose access to stimulant meds, you better believe I'm back on the patch and/or the vape. But in general dude, do not joke about nicotine. You are 3 years clean, it's incredibly hard to quit. If you done it once, it doesn't mean you'll do it twice. Maybe avoiding Parkinson's by vaping is a terrible excuse. You've never known addiction if you believe this time you'll be able to control it.
karussell 3y ago
Do you have any sources? Or did you mean that ironically, because as a smoker you die earlier than the average gets Parkinson's?
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  It's well established that nicotine fends off parkinsons (but won't do anything if started when sympoms appear) https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C31&q=nicotine+and+parkinsons&btnG= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C31&q=nic...
eutectic 3y ago
Seriously? You can't think of a more efficient use of the time and money?