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The bias I perceive in you is not based solely on two comments you've made. It's just two comments that I've responded to. I'm not playing "you're only allowe

The bias I perceive in you is not based solely on two comments you've made. It's just two comments that I've responded to. I'm not playing "you're only allowed to have opinions on pedagogy if you're a real teacher" game as you put it. Anyone is allowed to have opinions about anything. Some opinions have more merit than others. Some people have worthy opinions on topics that they don't have direct involved with. I've met lots of people with strong opinions on teaching. I've found that what superficially seems obvious to non-teachers often times miserably fails when you've got a class of 30 students with varying abilities and interest in learning. Anecdotally I'd say a majority of opinions from non-teachers about what would be great in the classroom only holds true if the classroom contains people desiring to learn. Well, I asked about your experience in the classroom because I wanted to know if the thoughts and ideas you've expressed about what is not useful in the classroom is based on your teaching experiences on your student experiences. I used to have strong feelings about k-12 teaching. Two years ago I was in a project that paired a college teacher with an 8th grade teacher at a local school. It took one day in the 8th grade class to realize that I don't know squat about k-12 teaching.

patio11 15y ago
In that case, most of my teaching experience was at the K-12 level, in small groups and classes of 25 through 40. Some in a classroom, some outside. I also tutored college students for a bit. Many kids wanted to learn, some not so much. Your turn. Do your opinions come from actual experience or do you have a bias against elementary schoolteachers?
- yequalsx 15y ago
  You taught in k-12? I have no experience in k-12 teaching other than the project I was on two years ago. The project I mentioned in my previous post. I definitely have a negative bias toward what is done in k-12 but my experience two years ago made it clear that my views on what should be done to fix k-12 education were not based on sound evidence. I do have 17 years of teaching experience in higher education. I once co-taught a class with a colleague. She taught the first 8 weeks. I taught the second 8 weeks. It was calculus II. Students getting Cs and Ds under her did quite well with me and vice versa for the A/B students. Personality plays such a great role in the whole issue that I've begun to think that there is no way to fix education. I think it is a hugely complicated issue and that positive results are local to a classroom and the personality of the students/teacher.

patio11 15y ago

In that case, most of my teaching experience was at the K-12 level, in small groups and classes of 25 through 40. Some in a classroom, some outside. I also tutored college students for a bit. Many kids wanted to learn, some not so much. Your turn. Do your opinions come from actual experience or do you have a bias against elementary schoolteachers?

yequalsx 15y ago
You taught in k-12? I have no experience in k-12 teaching other than the project I was on two years ago. The project I mentioned in my previous post. I definitely have a negative bias toward what is done in k-12 but my experience two years ago made it clear that my views on what should be done to fix k-12 education were not based on sound evidence. I do have 17 years of teaching experience in higher education. I once co-taught a class with a colleague. She taught the first 8 weeks. I taught the second 8 weeks. It was calculus II. Students getting Cs and Ds under her did quite well with me and vice versa for the A/B students. Personality plays such a great role in the whole issue that I've begun to think that there is no way to fix education. I think it is a hugely complicated issue and that positive results are local to a classroom and the personality of the students/teacher.