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I could be wrong but IIRC the chat moderation can not be disabled on a per server basis. Microsoft forces it onto every server and if your account is banned bec

I could be wrong but IIRC the chat moderation can not be disabled on a per server basis. Microsoft forces it onto every server and if your account is banned because of something you said on one server you won't be able to join other servers, even those you run yourself.

nickelpro 3y ago
Because of the pseudo-open nature of the MC source code, in practice it is trivial to run an authenticated server without signed chat
lyu07282 3y ago
This was exactly the point of the outrage, servers ought to be able to opt out of this system but they can't. There are mods [1] that server admins can use to remove the chat message signatures, players are powerless if they strip the signature that certified ever message they send, vanilla servers will block them by default and prevent them from joining. It is true however that there wasn't really the wave of false positive bans happening that the community was expecting. At least as far as I'm aware. [1] https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/no-chat-reports https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/no-chat-reports
Andrew_nenakhov 3y ago
Can't you just run a third party server?
jahsome 3y ago
I run a server. Chat signing isn't enabled. Upon login, the user sees a message along the lines of "chat can't be verified on this server." Reporting doesn't work. Everything else works just fine.
- aprilnya 3y ago
  But can someone who got banned by Microsoft still join your server?
  - jahsome 3y ago
    Why would I want them to?
    - aprilnya 3y ago
      because Microsoft could get it wrong? isn’t that why we’re disabling chat signing?
      - jahsome 3y ago
        Since the feature has been implemented can you point to a single case in which Microsoft "got it wrong?" I'll even be generous and include the entire year prior to java's chat signing in which the feature existed on bedrock. Spoiler: you can't because that scenario doesn't exist. It's a FUD bandwagon argument, nothing more.
        aprilnya 3y ago
        then why are you disabling chat signing?
        jahsome 3y ago
        I'm not.
        aprilnya 3y ago
        your comment from further up in the thread: > I run a server. Chat signing isn't enabled. Upon login, the user sees a message along the lines of "chat can't be verified on this server." Reporting doesn't work. Everything else works just fine. are you a GPT or something
        jahsome 3y ago
        I didn't disable it. It just doesn't work.

nickelpro 3y ago

Because of the pseudo-open nature of the MC source code, in practice it is trivial to run an authenticated server without signed chat

lyu07282 3y ago

This was exactly the point of the outrage, servers ought to be able to opt out of this system but they can't. There are mods [1] that server admins can use to remove the chat message signatures, players are powerless if they strip the signature that certified ever message they send, vanilla servers will block them by default and prevent them from joining. It is true however that there wasn't really the wave of false positive bans happening that the community was expecting. At least as far as I'm aware. [1] https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/no-chat-reports https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/no-chat-reports

Andrew_nenakhov 3y ago

Can't you just run a third party server?

jahsome 3y ago

I run a server. Chat signing isn't enabled. Upon login, the user sees a message along the lines of "chat can't be verified on this server." Reporting doesn't work. Everything else works just fine.

aprilnya 3y ago
But can someone who got banned by Microsoft still join your server?
- jahsome 3y ago
  Why would I want them to?
  - aprilnya 3y ago
    because Microsoft could get it wrong? isn’t that why we’re disabling chat signing?
    - jahsome 3y ago
      Since the feature has been implemented can you point to a single case in which Microsoft "got it wrong?" I'll even be generous and include the entire year prior to java's chat signing in which the feature existed on bedrock. Spoiler: you can't because that scenario doesn't exist. It's a FUD bandwagon argument, nothing more.
      - aprilnya 3y ago
        then why are you disabling chat signing?
        jahsome 3y ago
        I'm not.
        aprilnya 3y ago
        your comment from further up in the thread: > I run a server. Chat signing isn't enabled. Upon login, the user sees a message along the lines of "chat can't be verified on this server." Reporting doesn't work. Everything else works just fine. are you a GPT or something
        jahsome 3y ago
        I didn't disable it. It just doesn't work.