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For me as a kid, there was a huge gap between something that was free and something that was not. The difference between asking my parents for something and jus
by burglins 3y ago
For me as a kid, there was a huge gap between something that was free and something that was not. The difference between asking my parents for something and just getting (downloading) it.
I now have my own disposable income, but I still think long and hard in case I have to spend money; the actual price being secondary to the fact, that the thing is not free.
- yata69420 3y ago100% agree. Also I bucket "free" into "data harvesting", "actually gratis", or "libre".
- msla 3y ago> Also I bucket "free" into "data harvesting", "actually gratis", or "libre". Yes, and beware of the people who want you to ignore the second two categories. "If you aren't the customer, you're the product" is an insidious way to make you think there's no escape from being monetized, while simultaneously lying to you by saying you won't be a product if you pay using money. It's pretty universal that paying customers are a product sold to bigger customers, and I'm very wary of the motives of anyone who wants me to forget that.
- phantomathkg 3y agoCurious, what is the difference between "actually gratis" and "libre"?
- godshatter 3y agoNot the parent poster, but I'm assuming "actually gratis" means "free as in beer" (doesn't cost money, presumably with no data harvesting) while "libre" means "free as in speech" (open source license of some kind).
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- josephg 3y agoYeah; I have the same reaction to products like Notion or Figma where someone is footing the bill to keep servers on. And if those servers ever turn off, I lose access to my stuff. Either I'm paying for a product, and as soon as I stop paying, I've lost access to my stuff (Figma, Notion). Or the product is free, and someone is somehow intending to make money from me being their user. They'll either start charging down the line, or they're selling my data or my attention to advertisers (tiktok, twitter, etc). I don't think I like using SAAS products because its never really free. At least not in the same way the web is free or vim is free.
- yinyang_in 3y agoReally looking for notion alternatives, notion works for me, but no good alternatives. If you’ve some, do share those
- psadauskas 3y agoObsidian
- aidos 3y agoAn open source alternative to Notion is Outline. I’ve only looked at it, not used it in anger so I can’t offer much other guidance. https://www.getoutline.com/ https://www.getoutline.com/
- chrisweekly 3y agoIn stark contrast to those 2 examples of Notion and Figma, consider Obsidian. With its massive OSS plugin ecosystem, it approximates their combined capabilities, but has a foundation of offline-first, local markdown files.
- sunbum 3y agoIn what world does Obsidian come even close to having any overlapping features that Figma has?
- cheeze 3y agoWhich is why, as a kid, I was fine with piracy. I couldn't have bought Photoshop in a million years, and back then there was no free for education or whatnot. These days, I can afford it. Hell, I even bought Winrar as a thanks for many years of using it.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoSame, we had so much more access to e.g. games (on different platforms); we didn't have the disposable income for consoles but we did save up for a PC and that basically launched my career. On the other hand, that was an early indication of the entitlement that we have; we rail against the streaming services and resort to piracy not because it's unfair that they ask for money, but because we believe we're entitled to consume content. We're afraid of missing out, too. So it's a bit of a mixed bag I think.
- eviks 3y agoFriction is the killer of free movement!