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I'm not the OP lol, I'm just telling you that some people are off the rails delusional and it's not about withholding information at that point. Do you think th

I'm not the OP lol, I'm just telling you that some people are off the rails delusional and it's not about withholding information at that point. Do you think that little children should be told 100% factual medical information regardless of circumstances? Do you think an elderly patient with dementia should still be trusted with their own medical decisions? There are not easy answers to these questions sure, and one might be philosophically opposed to the withholding information route, but as far as pure patient outcomes there are absolutely situations where a lie is helpful. The placebo effect is a big one btw. Pretty sure telling a patient with social anxiety that they suck at socializing is not the right play 100% of the time.

zmgsabst 3y ago
So… you don’t have a specific example of how it helps? Yes, you should be honest with children about their medical condition. Similarly dementia patients. Why wouldn’t you? Asking about “trusted with” is a non sequitur because we’re not talking about whether people should be dependents that require care — but whether doctors have a right to conceal information. Again, why would you write “suck at socializing”? — but are you envisioning some situation where someone seeing a therapist for social anxiety would be harmed by “struggles with social skills” or “doesn’t have fully developed social skills” would be news to the patient? …c’mon. The patient already knows that; they’re there to get advice on how to address that. And a therapist telling such a transparent lie to someone with social anxiety seems likely to do more harm than good. Again, go ahead and be explicit about how you think medical professionals concealing notes will help — I think it’s very strange you’re so adamant but can’t be explicit. That’s typically a sign of being delusional.

zmgsabst 3y ago

So… you don’t have a specific example of how it helps? Yes, you should be honest with children about their medical condition. Similarly dementia patients. Why wouldn’t you? Asking about “trusted with” is a non sequitur because we’re not talking about whether people should be dependents that require care — but whether doctors have a right to conceal information. Again, why would you write “suck at socializing”? — but are you envisioning some situation where someone seeing a therapist for social anxiety would be harmed by “struggles with social skills” or “doesn’t have fully developed social skills” would be news to the patient? …c’mon. The patient already knows that; they’re there to get advice on how to address that. And a therapist telling such a transparent lie to someone with social anxiety seems likely to do more harm than good. Again, go ahead and be explicit about how you think medical professionals concealing notes will help — I think it’s very strange you’re so adamant but can’t be explicit. That’s typically a sign of being delusional.