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If an Alien civilization has the means to visit us, they are beyond the point of needing more resources. Same reason an Alien spacecraft has never crash landed

If an Alien civilization has the means to visit us, they are beyond the point of needing more resources. Same reason an Alien spacecraft has never crash landed on Earth - Aliens don't crash the car.

AtlasBarfed 3y ago
Obviously, a civilization in need of stellar expansion in order to address population expansion needs would probably be very detectable on sky surveys, but the notion that geometric expansion wouldn't result in extensive stellar colonization because of resource needs seems pretty naive. One of the interesting concerns about being an interstellar civilization kind of related to the great ant war that I think was documented in a Kurgesstz video about the relentless expanding invasive army ants around the world. They used to not attack neighboring colonies because they all shared the same smell. At some point one of the species diverged and had as a different smell and now the unopposed growth of the one species now fights in huge battle between their own species that just smell slightly different. Likewise, if you have a large distance between two stellar colonies. There's going to be a smell evolution over time. Humans fight a lot of intraspecies wars but not nearly to the extinctive ferocity that a war between two different species results in. How long before you send individuals to another star do they consider themselves another species? I mean look at what happened with Hitler and other genocidal actions.
- qayxc 3y ago
  I consider this to be another great argument against the existence of "galactic civilisations". Every colony would necessarily become a the seed for a different civilisation and species in a comparatively short amount of time. Isolation due to the communication delay (e.g. ~8 years round-trip in case of Earth to Alpha Cen) and the likely need for adaptation to the new world (be that by means of evolution or genetic engineering) would drive both home world and colonies apart quickly.
P_I_Staker 3y ago
Maybe they're drunk.

If an Alien civilization has the means to visit us, they are beyond the point of needing more resources. Same reason an Alien spacecraft has never crash landed on Earth - Aliens don't crash the car.

AtlasBarfed 3y ago

Obviously, a civilization in need of stellar expansion in order to address population expansion needs would probably be very detectable on sky surveys, but the notion that geometric expansion wouldn't result in extensive stellar colonization because of resource needs seems pretty naive. One of the interesting concerns about being an interstellar civilization kind of related to the great ant war that I think was documented in a Kurgesstz video about the relentless expanding invasive army ants around the world. They used to not attack neighboring colonies because they all shared the same smell. At some point one of the species diverged and had as a different smell and now the unopposed growth of the one species now fights in huge battle between their own species that just smell slightly different. Likewise, if you have a large distance between two stellar colonies. There's going to be a smell evolution over time. Humans fight a lot of intraspecies wars but not nearly to the extinctive ferocity that a war between two different species results in. How long before you send individuals to another star do they consider themselves another species? I mean look at what happened with Hitler and other genocidal actions.

qayxc 3y ago
I consider this to be another great argument against the existence of "galactic civilisations". Every colony would necessarily become a the seed for a different civilisation and species in a comparatively short amount of time. Isolation due to the communication delay (e.g. ~8 years round-trip in case of Earth to Alpha Cen) and the likely need for adaptation to the new world (be that by means of evolution or genetic engineering) would drive both home world and colonies apart quickly.

P_I_Staker 3y ago

Maybe they're drunk.