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You mean like Europe's use of Pegasus? https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/europe-spyware-scandal-pegasus-report.html https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/eur

You mean like Europe's use of Pegasus? https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/europe-spyware-scandal-pegasus-report.html https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/europe-spyware-scandal-...

pastacacioepepe 3y ago
> Multiple European governments are using advanced surveillance tools to spy on their own people As I've already answered you on another comment and as the very first line of the article you shared points out, Pegasus has been used for domestic espionage. The issue at hand is foreign espionage.
- nullityrofl 3y ago
  Ah, you think that the EU spies on their own citizens but is above spying on allies? Allies not OK, citizens OK? Like how Denmark helped the US spy on the EU? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/denmark-helped-us-spy-on-angela-merkel-and-european-allies-report https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/denmark-helped... Yes, EU nations are somehow totally incapable of a thing every country is doing. That is naive.
  - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
    > Ah, you think that the EU spies on their own citizens but is above spying on allies? Provide evidence please, but we both know there is none. > Like how Denmark helped the US spy on the EU? Yet another case of the US spying on its allies. Edit: You keep editing your comment so it's hard to properly answer. > Allies not OK, citizens OK? I've already wrote you here[0] that I find both cases despicable, but we're simply talking about US foreign espionage here. .0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35765353 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35765353
    - nullityrofl 3y ago
      > Yet another case of the US spying on its allies. I'm not sure if you're being obtuse or just didn't bother reading. Denmark was complicit in the US spying on Germany, Sweden and Norway. https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on-germanys-angela-merkel-report/a-57721901 https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on... France and Germany both have admitted they have spied on the White House. https://www.france24.com/en/20131024-nsa-france-spying-squarcini-dcri-hollande-ayrault-merkel-usa-obama https://www.france24.com/en/20131024-nsa-france-spying-squar... https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-house/a-39365418 https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-hou... Germany has been found to helping the US spy on EU allies: https://www.dw.com/en/parliamentary-report-finds-spying-by-bnd-on-eu-and-nato-governments-until-2013/a-19393213 https://www.dw.com/en/parliamentary-report-finds-spying-by-b... This is a childish and naïve stance. Also, I'm not American. You can stop referring to me in the second person.

You mean like Europe's use of Pegasus? https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/europe-spyware-scandal-pegasus-report.html https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/europe-spyware-scandal-...

pastacacioepepe 3y ago

> Multiple European governments are using advanced surveillance tools to spy on their own people As I've already answered you on another comment and as the very first line of the article you shared points out, Pegasus has been used for domestic espionage. The issue at hand is foreign espionage.

nullityrofl 3y ago
Ah, you think that the EU spies on their own citizens but is above spying on allies? Allies not OK, citizens OK? Like how Denmark helped the US spy on the EU? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/denmark-helped-us-spy-on-angela-merkel-and-european-allies-report https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/denmark-helped... Yes, EU nations are somehow totally incapable of a thing every country is doing. That is naive.
- pastacacioepepe 3y ago
  > Ah, you think that the EU spies on their own citizens but is above spying on allies? Provide evidence please, but we both know there is none. > Like how Denmark helped the US spy on the EU? Yet another case of the US spying on its allies. Edit: You keep editing your comment so it's hard to properly answer. > Allies not OK, citizens OK? I've already wrote you here[0] that I find both cases despicable, but we're simply talking about US foreign espionage here. .0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35765353 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35765353
  - nullityrofl 3y ago
    > Yet another case of the US spying on its allies. I'm not sure if you're being obtuse or just didn't bother reading. Denmark was complicit in the US spying on Germany, Sweden and Norway. https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on-germanys-angela-merkel-report/a-57721901 https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on... France and Germany both have admitted they have spied on the White House. https://www.france24.com/en/20131024-nsa-france-spying-squarcini-dcri-hollande-ayrault-merkel-usa-obama https://www.france24.com/en/20131024-nsa-france-spying-squar... https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-house/a-39365418 https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-hou... Germany has been found to helping the US spy on EU allies: https://www.dw.com/en/parliamentary-report-finds-spying-by-bnd-on-eu-and-nato-governments-until-2013/a-19393213 https://www.dw.com/en/parliamentary-report-finds-spying-by-b... This is a childish and naïve stance. Also, I'm not American. You can stop referring to me in the second person.