Well, I used to teach people to build state automatons first, then stack automatons, then Turing machines, then very simple CPU simulators and then trivial inte

Well, I used to teach people to build state automatons first, then stack automatons, then Turing machines, then very simple CPU simulators and then trivial interpreted languages on top. Never touched AVR, but x86 assembly is way too hard/cluttered in my opinion. Agree on the second stance but "advanced applications programming" is engineering. At this point I'm completely convinced that it's a bad idea to try to become an engineer if you aren't a reasonably good programmer yet.