> There is no distinction between "nature" and anything else. Yet here you are calling us "denatured, psychologically damaged people." Is that not you making

> There is no distinction between "nature" and anything else. Yet here you are calling us "denatured, psychologically damaged people." Is that not you making a distinction between us and nature? What's so bad about being denatured if there's no distinction between nature and everything else? You can't be denatured if you _are_ nature, it's contradictory. What exactly is your view here?