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This conflict appears to be a single manager who told people not to complain about new people being hired at higher rates or to discuss wages, in conflict with

by Natsu 3y ago

This conflict appears to be a single manager who told people not to complain about new people being hired at higher rates or to discuss wages, in conflict with Tesla's own policies on the matter. I would probably expect them just to fire that manager and move on, though it's possible a few individual employees would have some sort of claim.

abeppu 3y ago
> The same supervisor also told employees in the meeting not to complain "about pay or any other issues" to anyone higher than the regional manager. The "or any other issues" is extremely broad, and seems reckless. When an employee then tried to _internally_ escalate a concern, that employee was suspended and fired. A minimal slap on the wrist means that Tesla is likely to continue to suppress discussions of wages or workplace conditions, which sucks for workers -- but if the message coming out of this is that escalating _any_ concern above local management is likely to get you fired, I wonder what other kinds of issues will go unaddressed? Workplace safety issues? _Product_ safety issues? Would some of the quality control issues that were in the press some time ago have been more quickly addressed if internal communication didn't put people at risk of being fired? An organization in which people cannot honestly escalate concerns _internally_ is dysfunctional, and has the potential to create harms for customers and shareholders in addition to employees.
- Natsu 3y ago
  Oh, it's definitely harmful to have a manager saying things like that. Fortunately, this story seems to be about precisely one person. I'd be surprised if they didn't give this guy the boot.
  - falcolas 3y ago
    One manager, and their supervisor. Either the supervisor was negligent in doing their job, or supported the manager. HR should probably be more on the ball too. And implemented policies/procedures. There's never just one person who messes up. Kinda like how it's never just the Junior Dev's fault when they delete the production database.

by Natsu 3y ago

abeppu 3y ago

> The same supervisor also told employees in the meeting not to complain "about pay or any other issues" to anyone higher than the regional manager. The "or any other issues" is extremely broad, and seems reckless. When an employee then tried to _internally_ escalate a concern, that employee was suspended and fired. A minimal slap on the wrist means that Tesla is likely to continue to suppress discussions of wages or workplace conditions, which sucks for workers -- but if the message coming out of this is that escalating _any_ concern above local management is likely to get you fired, I wonder what other kinds of issues will go unaddressed? Workplace safety issues? _Product_ safety issues? Would some of the quality control issues that were in the press some time ago have been more quickly addressed if internal communication didn't put people at risk of being fired? An organization in which people cannot honestly escalate concerns _internally_ is dysfunctional, and has the potential to create harms for customers and shareholders in addition to employees.

Natsu 3y ago
Oh, it's definitely harmful to have a manager saying things like that. Fortunately, this story seems to be about precisely one person. I'd be surprised if they didn't give this guy the boot.
- falcolas 3y ago
  One manager, and their supervisor. Either the supervisor was negligent in doing their job, or supported the manager. HR should probably be more on the ball too. And implemented policies/procedures. There's never just one person who messes up. Kinda like how it's never just the Junior Dev's fault when they delete the production database.