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There are never any circumstances where you can accelerate out of danger, unless you put yourself in danger in the first place. Given that you use the phrase "

There are never any circumstances where you can accelerate out of danger, unless you put yourself in danger in the first place. Given that you use the phrase "driver's ed" I suspect you may be American, in which case you live in a country with one of the worst standards of driving in the world.

JoeAltmaier 3y ago
Not reflected in stats? US traffic accidents per capita per year is nowhere near the top. Maybe about average. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r...
jtbayly 3y ago
I’ll give you a real life example proving you 100% wrong. My BIL was waiting to turn left on a two-lane road with 55-65 MPH traffic. He looked in his mirror and saw a car coming at him and clearly not slowing down. He floored it, and got rear ended with a speed differential of probably 35MPH rather than 60MPH. Edit: Here’s another I just remembered. My father was driving 70 on a divided highway. Looked in his mirror and saw somebody coming up fast, so he accelerated, trying to get out of the way. (There was no space to get over.) The driver behind continued coming apparently in a big hurry, and my dad realized too late that he wasn’t going to slow down. Even having accelerated he got rear ended, but the speed differential was not bad, and it meant my dad didn’t lose control in heavy, high speed traffic. (The other driver had fallen asleep.) In neither case is there an example of putting yourself in danger. Just proper driving. In both cases pressing the accelerator was the single most important safety action taken.
- Gordonjcp 3y ago
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ethbr0 3y ago
> There are never any circumstances where you can accelerate out of danger, unless you put yourself in danger in the first place. I don't know how to parse that, so I'm going to go with your base belief around acceleration. For an average sedan these days, we're talking ~3,500 lbs. Say 175 hp. 0.05 hp / lb. Now, let's say your average loaded semi runs about 50,000 lbs. Do you think semis have 2,500 hp engines? (Generalizing hp/torque as correlated)
- Gordonjcp 3y ago
  I think you're grossly underestimating how long it'll take you to overtake a lorry if it starts to pull into your lane. It sounds like you don't drive much.
  - ethbr0 3y ago
    You are really on those ad homs, aren't you?

JoeAltmaier 3y ago

Not reflected in stats? US traffic accidents per capita per year is nowhere near the top. Maybe about average. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r...

jtbayly 3y ago

I’ll give you a real life example proving you 100% wrong. My BIL was waiting to turn left on a two-lane road with 55-65 MPH traffic. He looked in his mirror and saw a car coming at him and clearly not slowing down. He floored it, and got rear ended with a speed differential of probably 35MPH rather than 60MPH. Edit: Here’s another I just remembered. My father was driving 70 on a divided highway. Looked in his mirror and saw somebody coming up fast, so he accelerated, trying to get out of the way. (There was no space to get over.) The driver behind continued coming apparently in a big hurry, and my dad realized too late that he wasn’t going to slow down. Even having accelerated he got rear ended, but the speed differential was not bad, and it meant my dad didn’t lose control in heavy, high speed traffic. (The other driver had fallen asleep.) In neither case is there an example of putting yourself in danger. Just proper driving. In both cases pressing the accelerator was the single most important safety action taken.

Gordonjcp 3y ago
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ethbr0 3y ago

> There are never any circumstances where you can accelerate out of danger, unless you put yourself in danger in the first place. I don't know how to parse that, so I'm going to go with your base belief around acceleration. For an average sedan these days, we're talking ~3,500 lbs. Say 175 hp. 0.05 hp / lb. Now, let's say your average loaded semi runs about 50,000 lbs. Do you think semis have 2,500 hp engines? (Generalizing hp/torque as correlated)

Gordonjcp 3y ago
I think you're grossly underestimating how long it'll take you to overtake a lorry if it starts to pull into your lane. It sounds like you don't drive much.
- ethbr0 3y ago
  You are really on those ad homs, aren't you?