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Sabine Hossenfelder is a "theoretical physicist and science communicator". (1) I fear that her take on this issue will be pointless at best. It's not in any wa

Sabine Hossenfelder is a "theoretical physicist and science communicator". (1) I fear that her take on this issue will be pointless at best. It's not in any way in her lane; she will have no expertise here, no experience on who the bad actors are on that space. I get that she has probably "done research" by talking to self-proclaimed experts in the field, but I would be very surprised if she has "done research" by having her name on a new study in this field, published in a reputable scientific journal. A quick google suggest so: https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1652459958745833472 https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/16524599587458334... 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Hossenfelder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Hossenfelder

DangitBobby 4y ago
Just watch the video. The title is maybe a little bit inflammatory, the content is not. If you're here to dispute the actual facts being discussed, cool, otherwise, this is an appeal to authority.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  So, spend half an hour on it on the off chance it's not junk, in a field that is rife with politicised and inflammatory hot takes. That's a hard sell, frankly. I'll get back to you if I get the time. I would not entirely dismiss as "appeal to authority" any filtering on such a field, that is so full of bad faith takes and misinformation. There's no shortage of that at all. And frankly, focusing on it as a pressing issue now, which it wasn't e.g. 10 years ago, is itself a culture-war distraction from more real things.
  - DangitBobby 4y ago
    If you aren't going to address then content, don't comment.
    - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
      I feel fine ignoring Ms Hossenfelder's warmed-over second-hand bothsidesism. IDK why you are attached to it. But if you are, I fully expect you to also pore over what came out in it wake (I'm, replying now when it's in) https://skepchick.org/2023/05/physicist-sabine-hossenfelder-screws-up-on-trans-kids-care/ https://skepchick.org/2023/05/physicist-sabine-hossenfelder-... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Kau7bO3Fw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Kau7bO3Fw
specialist 4y ago
I think this is a case of friendly fire. Hobbes tweets: > The question isn’t whether more kids are identifying as trans, it’s whether they’re GETTING MEDICAL PROCEDURES WITHOUT ASSESSMENT, something for which there is no evidence. Also an important question. Warrants an episode answering that question. Even better would be Hobbes and Hossenfelder working together on that. Double nerdgasm. (I subscribe to If Books Could Kill. Am a huge fan of Hobbes.)

DangitBobby 4y ago

Just watch the video. The title is maybe a little bit inflammatory, the content is not. If you're here to dispute the actual facts being discussed, cool, otherwise, this is an appeal to authority.

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
So, spend half an hour on it on the off chance it's not junk, in a field that is rife with politicised and inflammatory hot takes. That's a hard sell, frankly. I'll get back to you if I get the time. I would not entirely dismiss as "appeal to authority" any filtering on such a field, that is so full of bad faith takes and misinformation. There's no shortage of that at all. And frankly, focusing on it as a pressing issue now, which it wasn't e.g. 10 years ago, is itself a culture-war distraction from more real things.
- DangitBobby 4y ago
  If you aren't going to address then content, don't comment.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    I feel fine ignoring Ms Hossenfelder's warmed-over second-hand bothsidesism. IDK why you are attached to it. But if you are, I fully expect you to also pore over what came out in it wake (I'm, replying now when it's in) https://skepchick.org/2023/05/physicist-sabine-hossenfelder-screws-up-on-trans-kids-care/ https://skepchick.org/2023/05/physicist-sabine-hossenfelder-... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Kau7bO3Fw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Kau7bO3Fw

specialist 4y ago

I think this is a case of friendly fire. Hobbes tweets: > The question isn’t whether more kids are identifying as trans, it’s whether they’re GETTING MEDICAL PROCEDURES WITHOUT ASSESSMENT, something for which there is no evidence. Also an important question. Warrants an episode answering that question. Even better would be Hobbes and Hossenfelder working together on that. Double nerdgasm. (I subscribe to If Books Could Kill. Am a huge fan of Hobbes.)