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Flame-y tone aside, I cannot help but feel exactly like this: > Zounds, Herr Professor Doktor, you seem to be setting a new level of pettiness and arrogance. Y
by kahawe 15y ago
Flame-y tone aside, I cannot help but feel exactly like this:
> Zounds, Herr Professor Doktor, you seem to be setting a new level of pettiness and arrogance. You don't seem to object to your getting a doubtless hefty paycheck resting on huge tuition rates, nor do I recall any quibbles from you to the costs of textbooks. Gods forbid that any student earn a few bucks from his diligent note-taking!
What I do with MY notes should be nothing but MY business, as simple as that. We are talking university here, people. Students should be MORE than old enough to be able to decide for themselves which way of learning works best for them. I do not need some facetious, bored prof patronizing me on how I want to study and ultimately pass the exams.
> campuses are taking new steps to limit what students can do with their class notes
And this is completely beyond me as well. Even if I could obtain exact 1:1 replicas of all slides used in each lecture plus thorough notes, I still do not get a degree from whatever university they came from and keep in mind that a lot of the HUGE names are releasing course material for free anyway.
This whole thing just seems really petty. And don't forget, some students learn a lot better by listening, others learn better by writing it down and others learn best researching on their own and taking thorough, well-structured notes can be a difficult job if you want to follow class and discussions equally well at the same time. Why shouldn't you allow both of those learning types to benefit? Don't we want our students to actually become team-players and independent, autonomous?
- davidu 15y agoMaybe I read a different blog post. In my reading, I am pretty sure the professor agrees with you.
- kahawe 15y agoUp to the point where he reveals that... > And then I'll write exam questions testing on those very same mistakes. If we all did that, the market would dry up pretty quick. ...he actually DOES oppose it obviously and wants to stop it.
- davidu 15y agoYou missed his point. He doesn't care. He thinks the market can deal with it. He thinks the schools should stay out of it. As a professor, he can route around it by being smarter than the note sellers. You want to restrict his right to do that? Bizarre...
- freehunter 15y ago>keep in mind that a lot of the HUGE names are releasing course material for free anyway. One of my professors this semester refuses to provide his slides on Blackboard. When someone asked him why, he said he didn't want people stealing them and handing them out to people who did not come to class. Basically, if you want the slides, you have to be in class for that day and take notes. He proceeded to make the person feel bad for wanting to take the teacher's "hard work". What he didn't mention is that McGraw-Hill provides them on their website for every student enrolled anyway, and "his" slides came on a DVD from the teacher's edition of the textbook.
- rflrob 15y ago>>You don't seem to object to your getting a doubtless hefty paycheck resting on huge tuition rates I disagree with this assertion that his paycheck is particularly hefty. Professor Bainbridge earned $263k in 2008 (I can't seem to get sites with newer data to work)[1]. Could a highly trained lawyer focusing on the public corporation law be earning more or less than that on the job market? I don't disagree that he's quite well off, but if money was his primary focus, he could be in a much, much better financial position. [1] http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/06/05/ucpay2008.DTL http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/06/05/...