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IMHO: The government including EPA has been hijacked by corporate interests that destroy the environment literally on an industrial scale. The same club of mult

IMHO: The government including EPA has been hijacked by corporate interests that destroy the environment literally on an industrial scale. The same club of multinationals have expropriated our middle class and sent it to China, which is profitable in part because of the lack of environmental regulations which manages to be even worse than the hollowed out ones we enjoy here. So while all this is going on we have the bullshit with straws, our printers turning themselves off constantly, and now this, as if people in their homes are the lever that needs to be pulled to fix the environment. It’s a farce and a diversion from the corruption that’s actually contributing to environmental damage. Electric and gas stoves are not analogs, at all. Bet your ass the politicians pushing this for optics will NOT be using an electric stove at home.

gumballindie 4y ago
Meanwhile here in europe electric stoves work just fine, cook faster, are cleaner and safer. Entering a house with gas stoves feels like stepping back in time.
danny_codes 4y ago
Induction stoves are cheaper, more energy efficient, safer, and better for your health. There aren't any advantages to gas at all. The gas industry has, however, put many billions into lobbying and marketing to convince you otherwise. And it seems they have succeeded. For your education https://youtu.be/hX2aZUav-54 https://youtu.be/hX2aZUav-54
- user3939382 4y ago
  > There aren't any advantages to gas at all That's false. Gas means you can instantly adjust the heat level. Electric is nice if you don't actually cook or don't know how. You don't find electric in any restaurant ever and there's a reason for that. Again, the people pushing this legislation 100% do not have electric ranges in their house. This is performative politics that has nothing to do with actually caring about the environment.
  - scoofy 4y ago
    Basically everything you just stated is out of date. You're thinking of old, incandescent electric stoves, which are indeed garbage. You can heat faster and also adjust heat faster with induction than with gas. Many restaurants are moving to induction. People pushing for this legislation have induction ranges in their house... in fact, most serious people with concerns about air quality have already switched. The reason why this topic as so controversial is that the vast majority of people don't understand how powerful modern induction ranges are. It's effectively as great a change as geothermal heat pumps will be in our lifetime. They are a total win on every aspect except aesthetics.
    - the_doctah 4y ago
      Your entire post needs citations
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > You don’t find electric in any restaurant ever and there’s a reason for that. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/29/why-electric-stoves-are-better-chefs https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/29/why-elec...

gumballindie 4y ago

Meanwhile here in europe electric stoves work just fine, cook faster, are cleaner and safer. Entering a house with gas stoves feels like stepping back in time.

danny_codes 4y ago

Induction stoves are cheaper, more energy efficient, safer, and better for your health. There aren't any advantages to gas at all. The gas industry has, however, put many billions into lobbying and marketing to convince you otherwise. And it seems they have succeeded. For your education https://youtu.be/hX2aZUav-54 https://youtu.be/hX2aZUav-54

user3939382 4y ago
> There aren't any advantages to gas at all That's false. Gas means you can instantly adjust the heat level. Electric is nice if you don't actually cook or don't know how. You don't find electric in any restaurant ever and there's a reason for that. Again, the people pushing this legislation 100% do not have electric ranges in their house. This is performative politics that has nothing to do with actually caring about the environment.
- scoofy 4y ago
  Basically everything you just stated is out of date. You're thinking of old, incandescent electric stoves, which are indeed garbage. You can heat faster and also adjust heat faster with induction than with gas. Many restaurants are moving to induction. People pushing for this legislation have induction ranges in their house... in fact, most serious people with concerns about air quality have already switched. The reason why this topic as so controversial is that the vast majority of people don't understand how powerful modern induction ranges are. It's effectively as great a change as geothermal heat pumps will be in our lifetime. They are a total win on every aspect except aesthetics.
  - the_doctah 4y ago
    Your entire post needs citations
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > You don’t find electric in any restaurant ever and there’s a reason for that. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/29/why-electric-stoves-are-better-chefs https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/29/why-elec...