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In previous cases, the questions regarding rape have been phrased to be incredibly broad, to the point of straining credulity. I can't say where these particula

In previous cases, the questions regarding rape have been phrased to be incredibly broad, to the point of straining credulity. I can't say where these particular statistics have come from, but prior statistical nonsense here has poisoned the well for me.

treis 4y ago
Question was: >Have you ever been physically forced to have sexual intercourse when you did not want to?
throwaway290 4y ago
> the questions regarding rape have been phrased to be incredibly broad If forced sexual intercourse does not fit your definition of rape, perhaps that's what's being too narrow?
- surgical_fire 4y ago
  Can "forced" in this context be interpreted as "peer pressured" by the person being interviewed? I'm not here to doubt the statistics. But when I was young peer pressure was a problem when it came to sex. I don't know if I would consider "I was pressured by my peers to have sex, but I didn't really want to" as rape. Or at least, I don't know who the rapist would be in this case. And it affects men too. First time I made out with a girl, I really didn't like her (as in I found her boring and not attractive). But my friends were pressuring me towards it. A few shots of vodka later, and I did what I had to do.
  - throwaway290 4y ago
    1) I think it is also pretty bad, when mental health is concerned. When you (assuming a teenage boy) were verbally forced to have sex with a girl you didn't lose anything but per Christian culture in the US a girl would. It's just a bigger deal. 2) in this case it is "physically forced", see the paper.
    - surgical_fire 4y ago
      1) At least were I came from, to my understanding, girls were as much pressured by their peers as boys, if not more. 2) I didn't read the paper, but if it is "physically forced to have sex", that is as unambiguous as it gets. Thanks for clarifying!
      - throwaway290 4y ago
        1) Maybe you missed the point, I agree there is pressure in both cases but the consequence is different 2) I didn't read it carefully but I ctrl-Fed to find these details

treis 4y ago

Question was: >Have you ever been physically forced to have sexual intercourse when you did not want to?

throwaway290 4y ago

> the questions regarding rape have been phrased to be incredibly broad If forced sexual intercourse does not fit your definition of rape, perhaps that's what's being too narrow?

surgical_fire 4y ago
Can "forced" in this context be interpreted as "peer pressured" by the person being interviewed? I'm not here to doubt the statistics. But when I was young peer pressure was a problem when it came to sex. I don't know if I would consider "I was pressured by my peers to have sex, but I didn't really want to" as rape. Or at least, I don't know who the rapist would be in this case. And it affects men too. First time I made out with a girl, I really didn't like her (as in I found her boring and not attractive). But my friends were pressuring me towards it. A few shots of vodka later, and I did what I had to do.
- throwaway290 4y ago
  1) I think it is also pretty bad, when mental health is concerned. When you (assuming a teenage boy) were verbally forced to have sex with a girl you didn't lose anything but per Christian culture in the US a girl would. It's just a bigger deal. 2) in this case it is "physically forced", see the paper.
  - surgical_fire 4y ago
    1) At least were I came from, to my understanding, girls were as much pressured by their peers as boys, if not more. 2) I didn't read the paper, but if it is "physically forced to have sex", that is as unambiguous as it gets. Thanks for clarifying!
    - throwaway290 4y ago
      1) Maybe you missed the point, I agree there is pressure in both cases but the consequence is different 2) I didn't read it carefully but I ctrl-Fed to find these details