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Even the definition of success is a contradictory lie from the conception cited definition of success that was created right after the launch blew up. At the t

Even the definition of success is a contradictory lie from the conception cited definition of success that was created right after the launch blew up. At the time they said it was successful because the launch was successful. But as we now know, and Elon has admitted as quoted in the article, the launch wasn’t successful. Way more shit blew up than planned. He redefines success as learning a lot. Which would have been the case in any launch, except, ironically, a launch that was actually successful.

krisoft 3y ago
> cited definition of success that was created right after the launch blew up Categorically false. Just watch the recording of the live stream. They told us what their definition of success is at multiple points before they lit a single engine. > He redefines success as learning a lot. Look, I find Elon distastefull in uncountable ways. But this particular mindset is an important one if you want to achieve hard things. More people should live by it.
- devb 3y ago
  Learning from failure is not success. It's just a benefit.
  - krisoft 3y ago
    > Learning from failure is not success. It most definietly is if your goal is to learn as much as possible. This is exactly my point. This is a different mindset so many people can benefit from. Many people want to build things, they try it, the end result fails short of their expectations and they give up. That is how you guarantee to not achieve anything. Instead anyone who wants to get better at doing things should do (carefully and with as much attention and deliberation as you can muster, but put tool to material don’t just think about doing), observe how things went (not just the end product, but every single step), figure out what are the low hanging fruits you can improve on, try again. This is how you can achieve great results (in creating hardware and software, but also in various other parts of life.) Make sure you can sustain this process of iterative improvement and you will end up with things you couldn’t imagine any other way. In my case with my limited means that means don’t spend more on a single iteration than what my hobby budget can sustain, make sure nobody gets hurt and the workshop doesn’t burn down. SpaceX clearly has a lot more money to throw around but the principles are the same.

krisoft 3y ago

> cited definition of success that was created right after the launch blew up Categorically false. Just watch the recording of the live stream. They told us what their definition of success is at multiple points before they lit a single engine. > He redefines success as learning a lot. Look, I find Elon distastefull in uncountable ways. But this particular mindset is an important one if you want to achieve hard things. More people should live by it.

devb 3y ago
Learning from failure is not success. It's just a benefit.
- krisoft 3y ago
  > Learning from failure is not success. It most definietly is if your goal is to learn as much as possible. This is exactly my point. This is a different mindset so many people can benefit from. Many people want to build things, they try it, the end result fails short of their expectations and they give up. That is how you guarantee to not achieve anything. Instead anyone who wants to get better at doing things should do (carefully and with as much attention and deliberation as you can muster, but put tool to material don’t just think about doing), observe how things went (not just the end product, but every single step), figure out what are the low hanging fruits you can improve on, try again. This is how you can achieve great results (in creating hardware and software, but also in various other parts of life.) Make sure you can sustain this process of iterative improvement and you will end up with things you couldn’t imagine any other way. In my case with my limited means that means don’t spend more on a single iteration than what my hobby budget can sustain, make sure nobody gets hurt and the workshop doesn’t burn down. SpaceX clearly has a lot more money to throw around but the principles are the same.