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I'm curious, what's American to you in their reply?

suddenclarity 3y ago
All of the points from OP mentioning cars despite the article seemingly being about gym. US have a view of being focused on cars when most of the world travel by bike or foot in cities.
- 11235813213455 3y ago
  > most of the world travel by bike or foot in cities. of course, I'm talking of rich countries, there's not just USA, (West Europe, ...) where the car usage is extremely high, and where fitness services flourish Poorer countries have other priorities, and a better general health, low obesity level (but less public health, so a lower life expectancy > calisthenics that's what I meant with lifting your own weight, you can find many places for that outdoor, no need to buy anything
  - Grustaf 3y ago
    People in the rich world outside the US have a very different relationship to cars, not to mention public transport and walking/biking. In fact, the car obsession in America is a poor world phenomenon, you'll see this in countries where car ownership is considered a luxury. In other rich countries people just use the most convenient mode of transport, which in cities usually is the metro - it's never the car.
    - 11235813213455 3y ago
      I disagree, I live in western Europe, France, and the situation is unfortunately very US-like, people care a lot about their cars > In other rich countries people just use the most convenient mode of transport, which in cities usually is the metro - it's never the car No, other rich countries are converging to this US model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_...
      - Grustaf 3y ago
        It's not about car ownership, it's about car dependence and how you view the car. In Scandinavia most people have cars, but nobody would find it the least bit strange for a middle class or rich person to take the bus to work, and people don't think it's normal to drive 500 m to a shop. I don't know if you are French or just live there, but you have probably noticed that most people have very small cars compared to the US. Most people don't feel the need to signal status through having a large car, it's much more pragmatic.
        11235813213455 3y ago
        South of France, high proportion of SUV, many Teslas too, there are some small cars that probably don't even exist in USA, but still a large proportion of oversized vehicles, and 1 bicycle every 100 cars (roughly, when I'm bored and start counting on my bike or walking) many SUVs: https://www.best-selling-cars.com/france/2022-full-year-france-top-20-best-selling-car-models/ https://www.best-selling-cars.com/france/2022-full-year-fran...
        suddenclarity 3y ago
        You're kinda missing the point. It's not about number of cars or bikes per capita standing in a garage but rather how the cities are built differently. Everything is designed for walking and bikes. In the US, they are designed for cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM

All of the points from OP mentioning cars despite the article seemingly being about gym. US have a view of being focused on cars when most of the world travel by bike or foot in cities.

11235813213455 3y ago
> most of the world travel by bike or foot in cities. of course, I'm talking of rich countries, there's not just USA, (West Europe, ...) where the car usage is extremely high, and where fitness services flourish Poorer countries have other priorities, and a better general health, low obesity level (but less public health, so a lower life expectancy > calisthenics that's what I meant with lifting your own weight, you can find many places for that outdoor, no need to buy anything
- Grustaf 3y ago
  People in the rich world outside the US have a very different relationship to cars, not to mention public transport and walking/biking. In fact, the car obsession in America is a poor world phenomenon, you'll see this in countries where car ownership is considered a luxury. In other rich countries people just use the most convenient mode of transport, which in cities usually is the metro - it's never the car.
  - 11235813213455 3y ago
    I disagree, I live in western Europe, France, and the situation is unfortunately very US-like, people care a lot about their cars > In other rich countries people just use the most convenient mode of transport, which in cities usually is the metro - it's never the car No, other rich countries are converging to this US model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_...
    - Grustaf 3y ago
      It's not about car ownership, it's about car dependence and how you view the car. In Scandinavia most people have cars, but nobody would find it the least bit strange for a middle class or rich person to take the bus to work, and people don't think it's normal to drive 500 m to a shop. I don't know if you are French or just live there, but you have probably noticed that most people have very small cars compared to the US. Most people don't feel the need to signal status through having a large car, it's much more pragmatic.
      - 11235813213455 3y ago
        South of France, high proportion of SUV, many Teslas too, there are some small cars that probably don't even exist in USA, but still a large proportion of oversized vehicles, and 1 bicycle every 100 cars (roughly, when I'm bored and start counting on my bike or walking) many SUVs: https://www.best-selling-cars.com/france/2022-full-year-france-top-20-best-selling-car-models/ https://www.best-selling-cars.com/france/2022-full-year-fran...
        suddenclarity 3y ago
        You're kinda missing the point. It's not about number of cars or bikes per capita standing in a garage but rather how the cities are built differently. Everything is designed for walking and bikes. In the US, they are designed for cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORzNZUeUHAM