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Don't try to reason with people in these circumstances. "I hate big cars and they increased the size of my favorite midrange SUV. I wanted to buy the latest ge

by oblio 4y ago

Don't try to reason with people in these circumstances. "I hate big cars and they increased the size of my favorite midrange SUV. I wanted to buy the latest generation but because it's too big I instead bought a Ford F150". You wouldn't believe how often an equivalent scenario happens with laptops, phones, Linux distributions. It's largely emotional aka spite. Plus an excuse of sorts for a guilty pleasure.

rvba 4y ago
Rather: I have a perfrctly gine computer but cannot upgrade it to Windows 11 for free, because Microsoft came up with random requirements. They want me to buy a new computer and pay for Windows again. Also "security" is not a real excuse. If someone can physically grab my computer they will be able to break into it few days after Windows 11 is life since there will be some exploit like there always are.
- crossroadsguy 4y ago
  So I will move to a platform that's literally more restrictive in every other way (in)humanely possible? Right!
  - throwaway70701 4y ago
    Is it? I haven't seen any ads or a requirement to sign in with Microsoft/Apple account in macOS, there's no Pre-installed TikTok nor Angry Birds returning on every update and I haven't seen Apple discontinuing support for 6 years old computers. It might be restrictive in all the ways I don't care about, but oh well.
    - retrobox 4y ago
      > and I haven't seen Apple discontinuing support for 6 years old computers. You mean the way macOS Ventura is only for their hardware released in the last six years? [1] Apple’s absolutely do discontinue support for older hardware all the time when they release new macOS and iOS versions. You can keep running the older operating system but it will stop receiving updates. It doesn’t seem hugely different to having to stay on Windows 10 instead of Windows 11. 1. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213264 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213264
throwaway70701 4y ago
It is spite! I hate Microsoft putting ads into the OS, and pushing me to throw away a perfectly fine i7/32GB RAM computer. So a Mac it is. My first one btw. But it's not really a guilty pleasure - it's the best money/performance you can get now, especially if you do ML (thanks to Unified RAM).
- oblio 4y ago
  While I think the Apple performance part is probably valid, you're still proving my point. You absolutely did not have to throw anything away now, you wanted a new toy. Windows 10 is still supported until November 2025, 2 and a half years from now.

by oblio 4y ago

rvba 4y ago

Rather: I have a perfrctly gine computer but cannot upgrade it to Windows 11 for free, because Microsoft came up with random requirements. They want me to buy a new computer and pay for Windows again. Also "security" is not a real excuse. If someone can physically grab my computer they will be able to break into it few days after Windows 11 is life since there will be some exploit like there always are.

crossroadsguy 4y ago
So I will move to a platform that's literally more restrictive in every other way (in)humanely possible? Right!
- throwaway70701 4y ago
  Is it? I haven't seen any ads or a requirement to sign in with Microsoft/Apple account in macOS, there's no Pre-installed TikTok nor Angry Birds returning on every update and I haven't seen Apple discontinuing support for 6 years old computers. It might be restrictive in all the ways I don't care about, but oh well.
  - retrobox 4y ago
    > and I haven't seen Apple discontinuing support for 6 years old computers. You mean the way macOS Ventura is only for their hardware released in the last six years? [1] Apple’s absolutely do discontinue support for older hardware all the time when they release new macOS and iOS versions. You can keep running the older operating system but it will stop receiving updates. It doesn’t seem hugely different to having to stay on Windows 10 instead of Windows 11. 1. https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213264 https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT213264

throwaway70701 4y ago

It is spite! I hate Microsoft putting ads into the OS, and pushing me to throw away a perfectly fine i7/32GB RAM computer. So a Mac it is. My first one btw. But it's not really a guilty pleasure - it's the best money/performance you can get now, especially if you do ML (thanks to Unified RAM).

oblio 4y ago
While I think the Apple performance part is probably valid, you're still proving my point. You absolutely did not have to throw anything away now, you wanted a new toy. Windows 10 is still supported until November 2025, 2 and a half years from now.