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How does a governor unilaterally add loopholes to a bill? Isn’t that the role of the legislative branch?

by cgb223 3y ago

int_19h 3y ago
It is, but the governor can basically hold the bill hostage by refusing to sign unless specific amendments are made, which is what happened here.
- LegitShady 3y ago
  In NY if the governor doesn't sign it becomes law by default. https://www.nysenate.gov/how-bill-becomes-law-1 https://www.nysenate.gov/how-bill-becomes-law-1 >While the Legislature is in session, the Governor has 10 days (not counting Sundays) to sign or veto bills passed by both houses. Signed bills become law; vetoed bills do not. However, the Governor's failure to sign or veto a bill within the 10-day period means that it becomes law automatically.
  - nier 3y ago
    > She was waiting a whole year to sign the bill and at the end decided add loopholes which made the bill worse than useless. So what’s with this 10 day timeframe? I’m confused. So, technically, they haven’t been waiting a year and vetoed the bill right away?
    - LegitShady 3y ago
      most likely there was some shenanigans within the legislature to hide exactly who did what, which shouldn't be possible given freedom of information rules, but if it was vetoed that would leave a record that doesn't exist. Most likely it was never officially submitted until after changes occurred.
LegitShady 3y ago
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlHtbaRWAAEdwdv?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlHtbaRWAAEdwdv?format=jpg&name=... > "The legislation as drafted included technical issues that could put safety and security at risk, as well as heighten the risk of injury from physical repair projects, and I am pleased to have reached an agreement with the legislature to address these issues." The whole bill was altered by the legislature and governor such that assemblies satisfy the requirement to have parts available. So if Samsung glues the battery to the screen and sells it to you as a $300 part, that satisfies the requirement of having the battery available. So the whole bill was sabotaged and used a press release by the government to pretend they were doing something for the people when in fact they were neutering the bill.
- bombcar 3y ago
  I had an iPhone repaired under warranty; it was the logic board but the Apple Store dude was proud to let me know that the display and camera would move over, but everything else was part of the logic board (including the battery). I guess a phone with three parts is better than one with one part.
  - aziaziazi 3y ago
    What model was it ? Does Apple solder their iPhones batteries now ?
    - bombcar 3y ago
      it was an iPhone 13; I don't know if the battery is "really" connected or it's just how they do the repair; he just mentioned that the back cover and battery would be part of the logic board replacement. (I still am not quite certain why they didn't just give me a refurbished phone and later repair mine as a refurb, but whatever)
    - lotsofpulp 3y ago
      No, and in the newest iPhone, 14, it was made easier to replace the battery: https://www.ifixit.com/News/64865/iphone-14-teardown https://www.ifixit.com/News/64865/iphone-14-teardown I think X to 13 models had particularly difficult battery replacements.

How does a governor unilaterally add loopholes to a bill? Isn’t that the role of the legislative branch?

by cgb223 3y ago

How does a governor unilaterally add loopholes to a bill? Isn’t that the role of the legislative branch?

It is, but the governor can basically hold the bill hostage by refusing to sign unless specific amendments are made, which is what happened here.

LegitShady 3y ago
In NY if the governor doesn't sign it becomes law by default. https://www.nysenate.gov/how-bill-becomes-law-1 https://www.nysenate.gov/how-bill-becomes-law-1 >While the Legislature is in session, the Governor has 10 days (not counting Sundays) to sign or veto bills passed by both houses. Signed bills become law; vetoed bills do not. However, the Governor's failure to sign or veto a bill within the 10-day period means that it becomes law automatically.
- nier 3y ago
  > She was waiting a whole year to sign the bill and at the end decided add loopholes which made the bill worse than useless. So what’s with this 10 day timeframe? I’m confused. So, technically, they haven’t been waiting a year and vetoed the bill right away?
  - LegitShady 3y ago
    most likely there was some shenanigans within the legislature to hide exactly who did what, which shouldn't be possible given freedom of information rules, but if it was vetoed that would leave a record that doesn't exist. Most likely it was never officially submitted until after changes occurred.

LegitShady 3y ago

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlHtbaRWAAEdwdv?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlHtbaRWAAEdwdv?format=jpg&name=... > "The legislation as drafted included technical issues that could put safety and security at risk, as well as heighten the risk of injury from physical repair projects, and I am pleased to have reached an agreement with the legislature to address these issues." The whole bill was altered by the legislature and governor such that assemblies satisfy the requirement to have parts available. So if Samsung glues the battery to the screen and sells it to you as a $300 part, that satisfies the requirement of having the battery available. So the whole bill was sabotaged and used a press release by the government to pretend they were doing something for the people when in fact they were neutering the bill.

bombcar 3y ago
I had an iPhone repaired under warranty; it was the logic board but the Apple Store dude was proud to let me know that the display and camera would move over, but everything else was part of the logic board (including the battery). I guess a phone with three parts is better than one with one part.
- aziaziazi 3y ago
  What model was it ? Does Apple solder their iPhones batteries now ?
  - bombcar 3y ago
    it was an iPhone 13; I don't know if the battery is "really" connected or it's just how they do the repair; he just mentioned that the back cover and battery would be part of the logic board replacement. (I still am not quite certain why they didn't just give me a refurbished phone and later repair mine as a refurb, but whatever)
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    No, and in the newest iPhone, 14, it was made easier to replace the battery: https://www.ifixit.com/News/64865/iphone-14-teardown https://www.ifixit.com/News/64865/iphone-14-teardown I think X to 13 models had particularly difficult battery replacements.