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I don't know why it is odd. A ticket in Berlin is around 3 euros. If you make around 10 rides in an average month then a 9 or 29 euros pass is worth it, a 49 eu

I don't know why it is odd. A ticket in Berlin is around 3 euros. If you make around 10 rides in an average month then a 9 or 29 euros pass is worth it, a 49 euros pass is not worth it. Not everyone will change their travel patterns because of a discounted pass, so there is some threshold at which it is worth it.

mytailorisrich 3y ago
I get it you don't need that pass because you already get it cheaper. In fact I think very few people need a national pass and would rather prefer a cheaper local pass. But the general point is that 49 euros a month to use public transport is dirt cheap and is definitely not a barrier, quite the opposite. NB if a ticket is 3 euros it means 60/120 euros a month to commute daily without any discounted pass. Obviously, if you use only now and then the 3 euro ticket will be the cheapest option anyway...
- dathinab 3y ago
  It is cheaper then the local pass they can get (by 15+€ per month). It's not that the local pass is cheaper for them, it's that they use the transportation network so little that buying single tickets on demand is cheaper. Which makes this whole argument kinda pointless. I think they believe the 49€ ticket is an attempt to try to make driver stop using the car and use the public transport instead. But this isn't exactly the goal here.
em-bee 3y ago
the primary benefit is for commuters, that is 2 rides per workday, 40 rides a month. so effectively 1.23€ per ride. even as someone working from home, i go out at least 3-4 times a week, shopping, other errands, events, meet friends. two rides each time adds up to at least 30 rides a month. 3€ per ride only gets you 16 rides before you reach 49€. any semi regular user of public transport will reach that easily.
dathinab 3y ago
you are speaking about _one directional consecutive rides_ I.e. 10 rides are just 5 trips if you have a ride home from work and take some side route to stop at a shopping mall or Kino or so that counts as an additional trip but someone using it for work daily tends to have more then 42 rides a month not just 10 and that is just for work transit in a 5 work day week and then this is assuming you only travel in the AB area and not the outer area of Berlin and there are many (in summer) nice places close by Berlin, some still in the C area some beyond lastly, it's very convenient, I mean since I don't have a semester ticket anymore I forgot to buy a ticket way to often and just was lucky to never got cought

mytailorisrich 3y ago

I get it you don't need that pass because you already get it cheaper. In fact I think very few people need a national pass and would rather prefer a cheaper local pass. But the general point is that 49 euros a month to use public transport is dirt cheap and is definitely not a barrier, quite the opposite. NB if a ticket is 3 euros it means 60/120 euros a month to commute daily without any discounted pass. Obviously, if you use only now and then the 3 euro ticket will be the cheapest option anyway...

dathinab 3y ago
It is cheaper then the local pass they can get (by 15+€ per month). It's not that the local pass is cheaper for them, it's that they use the transportation network so little that buying single tickets on demand is cheaper. Which makes this whole argument kinda pointless. I think they believe the 49€ ticket is an attempt to try to make driver stop using the car and use the public transport instead. But this isn't exactly the goal here.

em-bee 3y ago

the primary benefit is for commuters, that is 2 rides per workday, 40 rides a month. so effectively 1.23€ per ride. even as someone working from home, i go out at least 3-4 times a week, shopping, other errands, events, meet friends. two rides each time adds up to at least 30 rides a month. 3€ per ride only gets you 16 rides before you reach 49€. any semi regular user of public transport will reach that easily.

dathinab 3y ago

you are speaking about _one directional consecutive rides_ I.e. 10 rides are just 5 trips if you have a ride home from work and take some side route to stop at a shopping mall or Kino or so that counts as an additional trip but someone using it for work daily tends to have more then 42 rides a month not just 10 and that is just for work transit in a 5 work day week and then this is assuming you only travel in the AB area and not the outer area of Berlin and there are many (in summer) nice places close by Berlin, some still in the C area some beyond lastly, it's very convenient, I mean since I don't have a semester ticket anymore I forgot to buy a ticket way to often and just was lucky to never got cought