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Replace Rails with Laravel and you get the same problem: the recommended patterns make it easy to get started but eventually work against you when things start

• gv83 3y ago
  replace rails and laravel with django and...these frameworks are great, but require great discipline and the ability to factor systems correctly! but TBH, discipline + correct factoring is kinda the baseline to produce decent systems. It's still leagues better with django/rails than with "microframeworks" which are basically a giant spool of rope for anything more than a handful of endpoints
  • cultofmetatron 3y ago
    > require great discipline and the ability to factor systems correctly! is there a framework that doesn't??