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we should spend the money to help all humans, its already going to be bad. We need to move faster and prob manhattan project carbon removal tech
by bwb 3y ago
we should spend the money to help all humans, its already going to be bad. We need to move faster and prob manhattan project carbon removal tech
- briantakita 3y agoSo don't help these people directly but fund large projects instead?
- bwb 3y agoWhy does it need to be one thing?
- tomcam 3y agoWhat percentage of Americans’ income should go to these projects? And should we take care of our own citizens first?
- techsupporter 3y ago> should we take care of our own (American) citizens first? We should take care of the planet. We all live on it and catastrophic heat waves and extreme weather are not polite and do not respect the thick black lines we've drawn on maps. For avoidance of doubt, I am absolutely saying that if those of us who are citizens or residents of the United States, European Union (with or without the United Kingdom), Australia, Canada, Japan, and anywhere else anyone might think of needs to take a hit to our net incomes and economic circumstances in order to keep the planet habitable, I am all for it.
- tomcam 3y agoI asked for a percentage.
- throwaway049 3y agoI'm only seeing policies which seem designed to change the behaviour of the less well-off: a daily charge for driving in certain areas that is priced the same whether you are an average Joe in a compact car or millionaire in a super-car is not going to influence the latter.
- crabkin 3y agoSuch a project will take care of our citizens. Maybe not "first" because technically it takes care of ALL people first, and therefore no one is "second." The US gov would be in a unique position to do it owing of course to the pool of talent and resources it can draw from. I don't have a clue where you live, but I live in the Mountain West and the water wars are constant issue on peoples minds. Not to mention, changing climate will induce immigration. Where do you think people will immigrate if they can? If your argument is about "American's first" with falling birthrates and neoliberal supremacy and whatnot, you're going to have a whole lot of new neighbors if their climate gets worse, because America first.
- tomcam 3y agoThat’s a long answer that doesn’t address my question.
- crabkin 3y agoAddresses the second question. It's impossible to answer your first. And if you're looking for short answers to those sorts of questions, well then you should already know ;)
- tomcam 3y agoWhy should I already know? I’m not the one volunteering even more of Americans’ hard-won tax dollars to save people in other countries when we have many, many people hurting in our own country. Those in favor of taking more of my money are responsible for presenting a compelling reason to do so.
- crabkin 3y agoYou are naive if you don't think your tax dollars right now are going to a million things in a million different ways that don't benefit you, and that it's not intentional. In the end such decisions aren't made by convincing people like you or me they work in our favor or the American people's favor. I won't try to convince you. You didn't understand what I meant by "you already know" and you didn't respond to anything I said, just kept parroting your line of reasoning.
- bwb 3y agoWe should take care of earthlings first. Then we can help the creatures from Venus. I really hate them though because their flag is red.