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Early Christian leaders cherry-picked what they wanted based on what was beneficial to their personal agendas anyway.

mcswell 4y ago
What was beneficial to them about saying the apostles all ran away on the night Jesus was betrayed, or that they were hiding in fear a few days after the crucifixion? Or by saying that Jesus told Peter (who was recognized as the early church's leader), "Get behind me, Satan"? The sense I get from the gospels is that the apostles had a lot of embarrassing things happen to them, and yet the apostles were held up by the early Christian leaders as the Twelve. If anything, it seems like the early Christian leaders had to keep what they were given in spite of all the negative things that happened.
- yarg 4y ago
  You don't want mere mortals to be elevated to the moral status of the lamb.
bjourne 4y ago
Not true. All the books in the New Testament has a clear connection to Paul or the other apostles and were penned within 50-80 years after Jesus's death. The only exception is the Book of Revelation.
- PrimeMcFly 4y ago
  The age of what was ultimately included in the bible, has little to no bearing on the claim that bible organizers cherry-picked what to include in the bible.
  - bjourne 4y ago
    Yes it has, since Christians would consider older books and books written by people connected to the apostles to be more authoritative than younger books and books authored by people with no such connections. That claim that "bible organizers cherry-picked" anything is a falsehood that you likely heard of because of the book The Da Vinci Code.
    - PrimeMcFly 4y ago
      No, the claim that bible organizers cherry-picked which to include comes from my having studied this quite a bit. What is canon has always been manipulated and twisted to suit human agendas. Even the words chosen via translations have been chosen because of how well they serve an agenda.
      - bjourne 4y ago
        Do you have any references for your claims? Because this Bible scholar more or less completely contradicts your claims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCy7NuujCLc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCy7NuujCLc

What was beneficial to them about saying the apostles all ran away on the night Jesus was betrayed, or that they were hiding in fear a few days after the crucifixion? Or by saying that Jesus told Peter (who was recognized as the early church's leader), "Get behind me, Satan"? The sense I get from the gospels is that the apostles had a lot of embarrassing things happen to them, and yet the apostles were held up by the early Christian leaders as the Twelve. If anything, it seems like the early Christian leaders had to keep what they were given in spite of all the negative things that happened.

yarg 4y ago
You don't want mere mortals to be elevated to the moral status of the lamb.

bjourne 4y ago

Not true. All the books in the New Testament has a clear connection to Paul or the other apostles and were penned within 50-80 years after Jesus's death. The only exception is the Book of Revelation.

PrimeMcFly 4y ago
The age of what was ultimately included in the bible, has little to no bearing on the claim that bible organizers cherry-picked what to include in the bible.
- bjourne 4y ago
  Yes it has, since Christians would consider older books and books written by people connected to the apostles to be more authoritative than younger books and books authored by people with no such connections. That claim that "bible organizers cherry-picked" anything is a falsehood that you likely heard of because of the book The Da Vinci Code.
  - PrimeMcFly 4y ago
    No, the claim that bible organizers cherry-picked which to include comes from my having studied this quite a bit. What is canon has always been manipulated and twisted to suit human agendas. Even the words chosen via translations have been chosen because of how well they serve an agenda.
    - bjourne 4y ago
      Do you have any references for your claims? Because this Bible scholar more or less completely contradicts your claims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCy7NuujCLc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCy7NuujCLc