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> lack of trust starting out If you're only a small time sender lack of trust is permanent. I've been self hosting for three years now, never sent spam, never
by cube00 3y ago
> lack of trust starting out
If you're only a small time sender lack of trust is permanent. I've been self hosting for three years now, never sent spam, never had the server breached and GMail and Microsoft both still send mail to spam.
At least Microsoft no longer outright 550 refuse my mail so I have that going for me which is nice.
- Avamander 3y agoIt's not permanent. Polish up your sending practices, slowly build up sending and you can deliver to all big providers from DO or OVH for all you care. It's the small providers that'll give you the most trouble.
- tracker1 3y agoLast time I tried, Google and even O365 delivered fine... Hotmail and Outlook.com, ironically considering they're also MS managed were the biggest problems from my testing. At this point, I'm willing to let some of it go to spam, as I think most people wind up having to check there regularly anyway. There's a lot of false positives, but so much actual spam and uce I don't really blame the carriers. DKIM, SPF, etc only go so far anymore, and even graylisting doesn't seem nearly as effective as it once was. Again, not really looking forward to parts of this, but I do want to at least try self-hosting as much as I can. I like the cloud offerings from MS/Google, but don't like the companies or their actions in and of themselves. Only one real way to push back, and that's to actually try. And on the small providers, yeah I can get that. I'm a bit more than a decade removed from self-hosting much of anything, and even then balancing DNS RBL with other factors was at least interesting if not frustrating.