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It isn't a coincidence that most of these culture war topics gained prominence after the occupy movement.

mikem170 4y ago
Do you think that was cause and effect? I might assume that terrorism wasn't the "us versus them" issue that it used to be, so culture wars were something new to galavanize the in-group tribe of voters. Or maybe contemporary culture wars came about after Obama was elected, the sense that the majority was loosing it's majority to the minorities. The occupy movement didn't seem to be picked up by either political party, so was it really a threat to anyone in power?
- Teever 4y ago
  I think that the occupy movement was a domestic threat that genuinely caught them off guard because they were so focused on international threats due to the war on terror. This iteration of the culture wars is an over active response to that threat, which is ironic because the war on terror was a hyper over response itself.
  - 0dayz 4y ago
    I highly doubt occupy wall street was the big deal for the elite. Ironically enough you're kind of adding to the supposed distraction, since occupy wall street didn't accomplish much of anything. Unions forming have caused more of the elite to quiver in their boots than protests.
    - Mountain_Skies 4y ago
      One could just as easily argue that the neutering of the Occupy movement points to it having been a big deal to the elite since they quickly jumped on the identity politics train to atomize the masses.
      - 0dayz 4y ago
        No, because it was never neutered, it fizzled out because it was a protest not a lobbying group that could do legislative change.
      - Teever 4y ago
        You know, I've expressed the same idea over the years in different forums and I always get someone who responds like the person above did and it has always baffled me. Then COVID happened and people who reticently got the vaccine and then had mild covid said "COVID was no big deal, I hardly felt anything" while conveniently ignoring the fact that the vaccine did something. What is the name of this cognitive bias or fallacy? It's everywhere.

Do you think that was cause and effect? I might assume that terrorism wasn't the "us versus them" issue that it used to be, so culture wars were something new to galavanize the in-group tribe of voters. Or maybe contemporary culture wars came about after Obama was elected, the sense that the majority was loosing it's majority to the minorities. The occupy movement didn't seem to be picked up by either political party, so was it really a threat to anyone in power?

Teever 4y ago
I think that the occupy movement was a domestic threat that genuinely caught them off guard because they were so focused on international threats due to the war on terror. This iteration of the culture wars is an over active response to that threat, which is ironic because the war on terror was a hyper over response itself.
- 0dayz 4y ago
  I highly doubt occupy wall street was the big deal for the elite. Ironically enough you're kind of adding to the supposed distraction, since occupy wall street didn't accomplish much of anything. Unions forming have caused more of the elite to quiver in their boots than protests.
  - Mountain_Skies 4y ago
    One could just as easily argue that the neutering of the Occupy movement points to it having been a big deal to the elite since they quickly jumped on the identity politics train to atomize the masses.
    - 0dayz 4y ago
      No, because it was never neutered, it fizzled out because it was a protest not a lobbying group that could do legislative change.
    - Teever 4y ago
      You know, I've expressed the same idea over the years in different forums and I always get someone who responds like the person above did and it has always baffled me. Then COVID happened and people who reticently got the vaccine and then had mild covid said "COVID was no big deal, I hardly felt anything" while conveniently ignoring the fact that the vaccine did something. What is the name of this cognitive bias or fallacy? It's everywhere.