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> And NPR told me that the possibility of gas stoves being banned was fake outrage: https://www.npr.org/2023/01/20/1150228734/the-facts-and-strategy-behind-the-

> And NPR told me that the possibility of gas stoves being banned was fake outrage: https://www.npr.org/2023/01/20/1150228734/the-facts-and-strategy-behind-the-outrage-over-rumors-of-a-ban-on-gas-stoves https://www.npr.org/2023/01/20/1150228734/the-facts-and-stra... No they didn't. > MARTÍNEZ: Look, Jeff and Lisa, I don't know what's going to happen with gas stoves. Also NPR was talking about the Federal government. While the article above is talking about the New York _State_ government.

aaron695 4y ago
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john_shafthair 4y ago
Literally the first sentence of their rebuttal admits it's all performative: > Well, the risk for the environment, it's more about what gas stoves have come to represent. And that's the practice of burning natural gas in homes.
- lesuorac 4y ago
  Stay on topic champ. rayiner's comment is that NPR told him "the possibility of gas stoves being banned was fake outrage". Whether or not gas stoves _should_ be banned is irrelevant. NPR clearly stated that they could become banned and that they don't know if they will.
rayiner 4y ago
Why are you ignoring the title and first paragraph? > The facts and strategy behind the outrage over rumors of a ban on gas stoves > The conservative media was in uproar last week over speculation that the federal government planned to ban gas cooking stoves and possibly seize them. The aim is clearly to dismiss the concern as manufactured outrage—note the words “strategy,” “speculation,” and “outrage”—rather than a concern about something that may happen because it’s an aim liberals definitely have.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  I seem to remember at one point that conservatives celebrated federalism - something about the states being the laboratories of democracy. Who knows, maybe New York will show how successful such a ban can be and the federal government can take that into consideration, but for now it seems like this is just New York.
  - rayiner 4y ago
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    - hotpotamus 4y ago
      If that's the case then I assume you should prepare for a ban.
  - PM_me_your_math 4y ago
    Having lived in the metro area for quite a long time, I am qualified to tell you that few things NY does is exemplary of success. Most energy or public works projects turn into a total debacle. Shoreham Nuclear Power station is a good example. Billions spent, and they never even turned it on. Residents are still paying that down. Endless road project cycling. I'm not sure there has been a single transportation project that wasn't at last 3x over budget. Public corruption, kickbacks, bribery, influence peddling, patronage... The entire state apparatus is rotten to the core and rife with incompetence. I'd like to believe in the state's benevolence and concern for the well-being of its residence, but then I'd have to start or join a new religion (on blind faith alone) with its dogma being the bullshit that the state feeds to its residents.
    - hotpotamus 4y ago
      And yet I believe it is considered the capital of the modern world in some sense, isn't it? (My perception as someone who's never visited the NE US). You choose to live there, or at least chose to live there for quite a long time as you said, so there must be some reason.
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aaron695 4y ago

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john_shafthair 4y ago

Literally the first sentence of their rebuttal admits it's all performative: > Well, the risk for the environment, it's more about what gas stoves have come to represent. And that's the practice of burning natural gas in homes.

lesuorac 4y ago
Stay on topic champ. rayiner's comment is that NPR told him "the possibility of gas stoves being banned was fake outrage". Whether or not gas stoves _should_ be banned is irrelevant. NPR clearly stated that they could become banned and that they don't know if they will.

rayiner 4y ago

Why are you ignoring the title and first paragraph? > The facts and strategy behind the outrage over rumors of a ban on gas stoves > The conservative media was in uproar last week over speculation that the federal government planned to ban gas cooking stoves and possibly seize them. The aim is clearly to dismiss the concern as manufactured outrage—note the words “strategy,” “speculation,” and “outrage”—rather than a concern about something that may happen because it’s an aim liberals definitely have.

hotpotamus 4y ago
I seem to remember at one point that conservatives celebrated federalism - something about the states being the laboratories of democracy. Who knows, maybe New York will show how successful such a ban can be and the federal government can take that into consideration, but for now it seems like this is just New York.
- rayiner 4y ago
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  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    If that's the case then I assume you should prepare for a ban.
- PM_me_your_math 4y ago
  Having lived in the metro area for quite a long time, I am qualified to tell you that few things NY does is exemplary of success. Most energy or public works projects turn into a total debacle. Shoreham Nuclear Power station is a good example. Billions spent, and they never even turned it on. Residents are still paying that down. Endless road project cycling. I'm not sure there has been a single transportation project that wasn't at last 3x over budget. Public corruption, kickbacks, bribery, influence peddling, patronage... The entire state apparatus is rotten to the core and rife with incompetence. I'd like to believe in the state's benevolence and concern for the well-being of its residence, but then I'd have to start or join a new religion (on blind faith alone) with its dogma being the bullshit that the state feeds to its residents.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    And yet I believe it is considered the capital of the modern world in some sense, isn't it? (My perception as someone who's never visited the NE US). You choose to live there, or at least chose to live there for quite a long time as you said, so there must be some reason.

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