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Same in Norway. And it works. Ditto for cold calling.

by kwhitefoot 4y ago

Semaphor 4y ago
I think cold calling is generally forbidden? At least I never got any non scam calls.
- kwhitefoot 4y ago
  Yes and no. If the caller has an existing relationship with the customer they can always call you. So your bank can call you. There is a register "Reservasjon mot telefonsalg og adressert reklame" that you can put you mobile number, etc., on and everyone who might call is obliged to update their own records from it monthly so that they avoid calling anyone on the register. I very occasionally, perhaps once every year or two, get cold called in Norway but now they are always from offshore. A few years ago I got a couple of cold calls from Norwegian companies but when I pointed out that I had registered all the family's mobile numbers with Brønnøysund [1] they apologized and that was the last I heard from them. [1] https://www.altinn.no/skjemaoversikt/bronnoysundregistrene/reservasjon-mot-telefonsalg-og-adressert-reklame/ https://www.altinn.no/skjemaoversikt/bronnoysundregistrene/r...
jjoonathan 4y ago
Speaking of which, wasn't there supposed to be a crackdown in the US? Something about the SHAKEN/STIR protocols? I'm still getting loads of spam calls, does anyone know where things got held up?
- kelnos 4y ago
  My understanding is that SHAKEN/STIR wasn't supposed to stop spam calls, but to stop caller ID spoofing. That way you could have "verified callers". Some calls I get on my phone (Android, T-Mobile) do have little checkmarks next to them, and I assume that means they had valid SHAKEN/STIR information. Possibly at some point we'll be able to just blackhole calls that don't pass verification. But that won't really stop spam calls; it just means that they'll come from verified entities. I guess in that case you can go after them with complaints and get them fined in the cases where their calls violate the law, but that doesn't sound like a great solution... I have better things to do than chase down misbehaving companies.

Same in Norway. And it works. Ditto for cold calling.

Semaphor 4y ago

I think cold calling is generally forbidden? At least I never got any non scam calls.

kwhitefoot 4y ago
Yes and no. If the caller has an existing relationship with the customer they can always call you. So your bank can call you. There is a register "Reservasjon mot telefonsalg og adressert reklame" that you can put you mobile number, etc., on and everyone who might call is obliged to update their own records from it monthly so that they avoid calling anyone on the register. I very occasionally, perhaps once every year or two, get cold called in Norway but now they are always from offshore. A few years ago I got a couple of cold calls from Norwegian companies but when I pointed out that I had registered all the family's mobile numbers with Brønnøysund [1] they apologized and that was the last I heard from them. [1] https://www.altinn.no/skjemaoversikt/bronnoysundregistrene/reservasjon-mot-telefonsalg-og-adressert-reklame/ https://www.altinn.no/skjemaoversikt/bronnoysundregistrene/r...

jjoonathan 4y ago

Speaking of which, wasn't there supposed to be a crackdown in the US? Something about the SHAKEN/STIR protocols? I'm still getting loads of spam calls, does anyone know where things got held up?

kelnos 4y ago
My understanding is that SHAKEN/STIR wasn't supposed to stop spam calls, but to stop caller ID spoofing. That way you could have "verified callers". Some calls I get on my phone (Android, T-Mobile) do have little checkmarks next to them, and I assume that means they had valid SHAKEN/STIR information. Possibly at some point we'll be able to just blackhole calls that don't pass verification. But that won't really stop spam calls; it just means that they'll come from verified entities. I guess in that case you can go after them with complaints and get them fined in the cases where their calls violate the law, but that doesn't sound like a great solution... I have better things to do than chase down misbehaving companies.