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Most venezulean golf farms are actually humans, rather than the bots. But Jagex is slowly making progress on a problem thats really difficult. A huge percent of

by soared 3y ago

Most venezulean golf farms are actually humans, rather than the bots. But Jagex is slowly making progress on a problem thats really difficult. A huge percent of players use Runelite, a 3rd party launcher, because it provides invaluable tools (the game is near-unplayable without it). Jagex is working hard to improve their launcher to the level of Runelite, and then they'll be able to implement much better client side botting detection (since currently its all server side). But agreed, their bot detection is horrible. I was botting 1+ action per second for 12+ hours a day for months and was only caught when I made a dumb mistake. Tough though, since there are real players with the same playing habits.

sosodev 3y ago
Yeah, that's the tricky part. There are some unbelievably dedicated OSRS players that will do high intensity (1+ action per second) stuff for several hours a day. So how do you differentiate those from bots? I suspect that machine learning might be the only path forward for tackling these issues but even then sophisticated bots will probably still exist.
- throwaway33381 3y ago
  This problem was researched over a decade ago. It's not really complicated, human interactions are different from bots you can't really create human like responses and for botters there is no incentive to really do so. Jagex just doesn't really ban them because there isn't really a point, people bot for a variety of reasons. Some have played their entire life and bot because they want to get ahead. Others bot because they don't have the freetime. It's complicated. As long as you don't really abuse it, Jagex has never really banned for this stuff. The idea here is that you don't get banned because it means losing a potential life long customer, sometimes they subscribe for a few months on and off but they eventually usually come back. There's a lot to it, in reality it's really obvious. Most of the more advanced ones just send packets, though that's another story and it's very obvious. Jagex just doesn't immediately ban them because well, there's not really a point.
voz_ 3y ago
> But Jagex is slowly making progress on a problem thats really difficult Not even close to that difficult. > A huge percent of players use Runelite, a 3rd party launcher, because it provides invaluable tools (the game is near-unplayable without it) This is a non-point? Bot detection should be serverside. > Tough though, since there are real players with the same playing habits. Bring back aggresive/violent random events. Evil chicken, come back!
andai 3y ago
>client side botting detection (since currently its all server side) My first thought was, well anything Jagex does is going to have to be server side, right? But I just remembered I recently watched a video on anti-cheat software (i.e. spyware).
diebeforei485 3y ago
> (the game is near-unplayable without it) Did they make RS2 worse, or is Runelite just that good? I haven't played in literally 15 years.

by soared 3y ago

sosodev 3y ago

Yeah, that's the tricky part. There are some unbelievably dedicated OSRS players that will do high intensity (1+ action per second) stuff for several hours a day. So how do you differentiate those from bots? I suspect that machine learning might be the only path forward for tackling these issues but even then sophisticated bots will probably still exist.

throwaway33381 3y ago
This problem was researched over a decade ago. It's not really complicated, human interactions are different from bots you can't really create human like responses and for botters there is no incentive to really do so. Jagex just doesn't really ban them because there isn't really a point, people bot for a variety of reasons. Some have played their entire life and bot because they want to get ahead. Others bot because they don't have the freetime. It's complicated. As long as you don't really abuse it, Jagex has never really banned for this stuff. The idea here is that you don't get banned because it means losing a potential life long customer, sometimes they subscribe for a few months on and off but they eventually usually come back. There's a lot to it, in reality it's really obvious. Most of the more advanced ones just send packets, though that's another story and it's very obvious. Jagex just doesn't immediately ban them because well, there's not really a point.

voz_ 3y ago

> But Jagex is slowly making progress on a problem thats really difficult Not even close to that difficult. > A huge percent of players use Runelite, a 3rd party launcher, because it provides invaluable tools (the game is near-unplayable without it) This is a non-point? Bot detection should be serverside. > Tough though, since there are real players with the same playing habits. Bring back aggresive/violent random events. Evil chicken, come back!

andai 3y ago

>client side botting detection (since currently its all server side) My first thought was, well anything Jagex does is going to have to be server side, right? But I just remembered I recently watched a video on anti-cheat software (i.e. spyware).

diebeforei485 3y ago

> (the game is near-unplayable without it) Did they make RS2 worse, or is Runelite just that good? I haven't played in literally 15 years.