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This could be super cool for logos. I've tried using Stable Diffusion to generate logos and it does pretty good at helping brainstorm, but the text is always gi

This could be super cool for logos. I've tried using Stable Diffusion to generate logos and it does pretty good at helping brainstorm, but the text is always gibberish so you can use its idea, but you have to add your own text which basically means creating a logo from scratch using its designs as inspiration.

alex_sf 3y ago
You can't use this to make logos for any commercial product, and it's not safe to use it for hobby projects either, based on the current model license.
- krisoft 3y ago
  > You can't use this to make logos for any commercial product Yeah good luck figuring out that a particular logo was generated with this particular model. And if someone does good luck doing anything about it. With this amount of fear one wouldn't dare to cross a road without three layers of bubble wrap, plus written authorisation from a lawyer plus a feasibility study from a traffic engineer.
  - alex_sf 3y ago
    You've never gone through an acquisition or due diligence, have you?
    - krisoft 3y ago
      Clearly. Explain it to me what will happen with the generated logo at an acquisition or due diligence.
      - alex_sf 3y ago
        You'll be asked to produce documents verifying your ownership and/or compliance with any licenses for all intellectual property. That includes code and graphics (logos).
        krisoft 3y ago
        Sure. And what documents and paperwork do you expect if I the owner of the company drawn the logo myself with a bit of a crayon/inkscape/gimp/blender? Those exact documents will be produced.
        alex_sf 3y ago
        I would expect a lawsuit if you gave them to investors, and jailtime if it was part of an IPO. Keep draggin down that bar in tech, I guess.
- dormento 3y ago
  You also cannot just ingest people's media to train a for-profit AI image generation service, and well, here we are. PS: not an AI apologist, just pointing the irony. Feels like those fan sonic characters "original content do not steal".
  - alex_sf 3y ago
    Yes you can. This is nonsense. https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/__44b.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/__44b.html
ZoomZoomZoom 3y ago
Well, surely you don't expect to just take the generated stuff and use it right away? For logos you usually need something that some entity can hold the claim on, so you probably need a human touch in any case.
- robbomacrae 3y ago
  MidJourney's v5 model did a great job producing our logo https://summer.ai/static/nearby/android-chrome-192x192.png https://summer.ai/static/nearby/android-chrome-192x192.png Admittedly it was one of several hundred I had it spit out for me. But the design was completely original and caught me by surprise. I tried making modifications but everyone kept telling me they prefer the original exactly as MidJourney made it!
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  Authorship is not a requirement for trademark, though having copyright as well is nice.
phonescreen_man 3y ago
Try controlNet with stable diffusion, I’ve been having good results for text.

alex_sf 3y ago

You can't use this to make logos for any commercial product, and it's not safe to use it for hobby projects either, based on the current model license.

krisoft 3y ago
> You can't use this to make logos for any commercial product Yeah good luck figuring out that a particular logo was generated with this particular model. And if someone does good luck doing anything about it. With this amount of fear one wouldn't dare to cross a road without three layers of bubble wrap, plus written authorisation from a lawyer plus a feasibility study from a traffic engineer.
- alex_sf 3y ago
  You've never gone through an acquisition or due diligence, have you?
  - krisoft 3y ago
    Clearly. Explain it to me what will happen with the generated logo at an acquisition or due diligence.
    - alex_sf 3y ago
      You'll be asked to produce documents verifying your ownership and/or compliance with any licenses for all intellectual property. That includes code and graphics (logos).
      - krisoft 3y ago
        Sure. And what documents and paperwork do you expect if I the owner of the company drawn the logo myself with a bit of a crayon/inkscape/gimp/blender? Those exact documents will be produced.
        alex_sf 3y ago
        I would expect a lawsuit if you gave them to investors, and jailtime if it was part of an IPO. Keep draggin down that bar in tech, I guess.
dormento 3y ago
You also cannot just ingest people's media to train a for-profit AI image generation service, and well, here we are. PS: not an AI apologist, just pointing the irony. Feels like those fan sonic characters "original content do not steal".
- alex_sf 3y ago
  Yes you can. This is nonsense. https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/__44b.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/__44b.html

ZoomZoomZoom 3y ago

Well, surely you don't expect to just take the generated stuff and use it right away? For logos you usually need something that some entity can hold the claim on, so you probably need a human touch in any case.

robbomacrae 3y ago
MidJourney's v5 model did a great job producing our logo https://summer.ai/static/nearby/android-chrome-192x192.png https://summer.ai/static/nearby/android-chrome-192x192.png Admittedly it was one of several hundred I had it spit out for me. But the design was completely original and caught me by surprise. I tried making modifications but everyone kept telling me they prefer the original exactly as MidJourney made it!
dragonwriter 3y ago
Authorship is not a requirement for trademark, though having copyright as well is nice.

phonescreen_man 3y ago

Try controlNet with stable diffusion, I’ve been having good results for text.