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“Strangled by fascism?” Care to elaborate what you mean?

itsoktocry 3y ago
>Care to elaborate what you mean? My non-American interpretation of the use of fascism in this sense is "any politics I disagree with". >cities may have an imperative to deprive them of their subsidized agriculture They are subsidized to provide agricultural products to the cities. Do you think rural America requires subsidies to provide for their own, if the population centres said we will no longer purchase food from you? They are small communities with lots of land.
jollofricepeas 3y ago
Is elaboration necessary? Fascism has a simple definition that can be found in dictionaries. “Fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen.” SOURCES: - https://world101.cfr.org/historical-context/world-war/what-fascism#:~:text=Many%20experts%20agree%20that%20fascism,leader%20over%20the%20individual%20citizen https://world101.cfr.org/historical-context/world-war/what-f... - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
- barney54 3y ago
  Elaboration is necessary because those things aren’t happening in rural America. It happens in people’s fever dreams, but not in the real world.
  - jollofricepeas 3y ago
    I don’t understand. Are you saying that rural America does NOT vote for far right candidates that are overwhelmingly… - anti-immigrant - pro-nationalistic - militaristic If so, please provide any reading or data you might have on the subject. I’d love to read up more on rural America.
Timon3 3y ago
>Care to elaborate what you mean? My non-American interpretation of the use of fascism in this sense is relating to: - taking away rights (e.g. abortion, and please don't argue technicalities) - banning medical intervention which provably increases quality of life and decreases likelihood of self-harm - suppressing dissident literature (e.g. recent "temporary" bans of books on Rosa Parks) - lowering the threshold of the death penalty - trying to introduce the death penalty for more things, especially what they call "grooming" - associating entire groups of minorities with this idea of "grooming" - aggressively suppressing and trying to exclude dissident politicians (e.g. the "Tennessee Three" or currently Zooey Zephyr) - attempting to overthrow an election by both casting doubt in bad faith and literally working out plans on how to use a coup to take over power
- kube-system 3y ago
  You're got it backwards, that's the "urban America interpretation of fascism".
  - Timon3 3y ago
    I think I know where I come from better than you, and it is my interpretation.
    - kube-system 3y ago
      I respect that you have your own interpretation. I think you might have either misunderstood what the person above was trying to say, or maybe you may not consume much US conservative media. Rural America leans toward conservative values, and from their point of view, the things conservative Americans would call "fascist" in today's political climate are things like: - restrictions on gun rights - institutions being required to cater marginalized social groups that they do not see as relevant to their communities - required separations of church and state - some contemporary public health requirements - policies that disadvantage status-quo rural employers
      - 3y ago
pessimizer 3y ago
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- jabradoodle 3y ago
  In that case, care to elaborate what terrorism is used as a euphemism for, and by who?

>Care to elaborate what you mean? My non-American interpretation of the use of fascism in this sense is "any politics I disagree with". >cities may have an imperative to deprive them of their subsidized agriculture They are subsidized to provide agricultural products to the cities. Do you think rural America requires subsidies to provide for their own, if the population centres said we will no longer purchase food from you? They are small communities with lots of land.

jollofricepeas 3y ago

Is elaboration necessary? Fascism has a simple definition that can be found in dictionaries. “Fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen.” SOURCES: - https://world101.cfr.org/historical-context/world-war/what-fascism#:~:text=Many%20experts%20agree%20that%20fascism,leader%20over%20the%20individual%20citizen https://world101.cfr.org/historical-context/world-war/what-f... - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

barney54 3y ago
Elaboration is necessary because those things aren’t happening in rural America. It happens in people’s fever dreams, but not in the real world.
- jollofricepeas 3y ago
  I don’t understand. Are you saying that rural America does NOT vote for far right candidates that are overwhelmingly… - anti-immigrant - pro-nationalistic - militaristic If so, please provide any reading or data you might have on the subject. I’d love to read up more on rural America.

Timon3 3y ago

>Care to elaborate what you mean? My non-American interpretation of the use of fascism in this sense is relating to: - taking away rights (e.g. abortion, and please don't argue technicalities) - banning medical intervention which provably increases quality of life and decreases likelihood of self-harm - suppressing dissident literature (e.g. recent "temporary" bans of books on Rosa Parks) - lowering the threshold of the death penalty - trying to introduce the death penalty for more things, especially what they call "grooming" - associating entire groups of minorities with this idea of "grooming" - aggressively suppressing and trying to exclude dissident politicians (e.g. the "Tennessee Three" or currently Zooey Zephyr) - attempting to overthrow an election by both casting doubt in bad faith and literally working out plans on how to use a coup to take over power

kube-system 3y ago
You're got it backwards, that's the "urban America interpretation of fascism".
- Timon3 3y ago
  I think I know where I come from better than you, and it is my interpretation.
  - kube-system 3y ago
    I respect that you have your own interpretation. I think you might have either misunderstood what the person above was trying to say, or maybe you may not consume much US conservative media. Rural America leans toward conservative values, and from their point of view, the things conservative Americans would call "fascist" in today's political climate are things like: - restrictions on gun rights - institutions being required to cater marginalized social groups that they do not see as relevant to their communities - required separations of church and state - some contemporary public health requirements - policies that disadvantage status-quo rural employers
    - 3y ago

pessimizer 3y ago

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jabradoodle 3y ago
In that case, care to elaborate what terrorism is used as a euphemism for, and by who?