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The same people pushing coins are pushing 'AI'.

Robotbeat 3y ago
You’re over-fitting. Hype maximizers will hype everything, fundamentally useful or not. They are not a discriminating signal for whether or not something is useful.
brokencode 3y ago
I’ve yet to hear a really compelling use case for cryptocurrency that doesn’t seem like it’d be better solved in some other way. It’s incredibly obvious how AI tools can be applied to many different problems. So even if it’s the same people “pushing” both, that doesn’t mean they are the same. These people are tech enthusiasts who want to make money, and they will be excited by any promising new tech.
- whywhywhywhy 3y ago
  >I’ve yet to hear a really compelling use case for cryptocurrency that doesn’t seem like it’d be better solved in some other way. Getting your life savings out of a warzone
  - brokencode 3y ago
    Are there examples where this is possible but other forms of transfer are not possible? From my experience working with crypto exchanges, there are a lot of regulations and processes that make them just as slow as a bank in a pinch. And if your country is war torn, I find it unlikely any exchanges would even operate effectively there. This type of use mostly seems like a crypto bro fantasy to me, but I’d definitely be interested to see some reporting on this actually working.
ben_w 3y ago
That scammers who pushed the former are now pushing the latter, doesn't tell you much about the future. ChatGPT is, IMO, about the same value as a freshly graduated programmer — it would be a mistake to let it loose unsupervised, but on the other hand, what do junior devs cost to hire these days?
ftxbro 3y ago
Nah I made this account with its ftxbro name to make fun of them and you can even see the first comment I made on the account. I think cryptocurrency and nft speculation is some beanie babies stuff, but I think large language models as trained on the whole internet with these data centers full of sci-fi GPGPUs are amazing transformative tools at the level of the discovery of fire or the invention of language.
- ryanklee 3y ago
  I completely agree with you. The only way this isn't true is if progress ceases because of some kind of socioeconomic catastrophy. We have already gotten over whatever hurdles there were that made supernnormal AI capability look potentially intractable. I don't think your comparisons to civilization butressing inventions like fire and writing and language (the last, to be fair, is an evolutionary invention, not a cultural one) are unfair or exagerrated. Things are about to get very strange in short order.

You’re over-fitting. Hype maximizers will hype everything, fundamentally useful or not. They are not a discriminating signal for whether or not something is useful.

brokencode 3y ago

I’ve yet to hear a really compelling use case for cryptocurrency that doesn’t seem like it’d be better solved in some other way. It’s incredibly obvious how AI tools can be applied to many different problems. So even if it’s the same people “pushing” both, that doesn’t mean they are the same. These people are tech enthusiasts who want to make money, and they will be excited by any promising new tech.

whywhywhywhy 3y ago
>I’ve yet to hear a really compelling use case for cryptocurrency that doesn’t seem like it’d be better solved in some other way. Getting your life savings out of a warzone
- brokencode 3y ago
  Are there examples where this is possible but other forms of transfer are not possible? From my experience working with crypto exchanges, there are a lot of regulations and processes that make them just as slow as a bank in a pinch. And if your country is war torn, I find it unlikely any exchanges would even operate effectively there. This type of use mostly seems like a crypto bro fantasy to me, but I’d definitely be interested to see some reporting on this actually working.

ben_w 3y ago

That scammers who pushed the former are now pushing the latter, doesn't tell you much about the future. ChatGPT is, IMO, about the same value as a freshly graduated programmer — it would be a mistake to let it loose unsupervised, but on the other hand, what do junior devs cost to hire these days?

ftxbro 3y ago

Nah I made this account with its ftxbro name to make fun of them and you can even see the first comment I made on the account. I think cryptocurrency and nft speculation is some beanie babies stuff, but I think large language models as trained on the whole internet with these data centers full of sci-fi GPGPUs are amazing transformative tools at the level of the discovery of fire or the invention of language.

ryanklee 3y ago
I completely agree with you. The only way this isn't true is if progress ceases because of some kind of socioeconomic catastrophy. We have already gotten over whatever hurdles there were that made supernnormal AI capability look potentially intractable. I don't think your comparisons to civilization butressing inventions like fire and writing and language (the last, to be fair, is an evolutionary invention, not a cultural one) are unfair or exagerrated. Things are about to get very strange in short order.