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I'm not sure I would think "food" when someone says they "use [it] in the kitchen". You "use" food? (Used in cooking != used in kitchen, imo)

version_five 3y ago
That's his whole point. It's possible to consider it technically correct, but it's a red herring.
- eternalban 3y ago
  Well, the alleged point is challenged. If playing this game, the questioner must constantly verify that the other party is using the language properly, you'll exhaust that 20 q limit rather quickly. - is it used in the kitchen? - yes. - [well, kitchen appliances, here we go ..] is it ..? ... - [aha. meat intelligence no speak proper English?] Is this thing you use in kitchen edible? - Oh, yeah. - [oh dear. we can not let meat machines govern this planet...]
smolder 3y ago
I use peanut butter as an ingredient for sandwiches, usually in my kitchen.
- eternalban 3y ago
  Yes. You use edible things in preparing or cooking food (which may happen in the kitchen). 'Use' maps to food prep (the act) but never to prep location. Only in cases where the thing has both general edible and food preparation usage -- "I use honey extensively in the kitchen" for example -- does "use" and "edible" make sense.
  - yorwba 3y ago
    But peanut butter has general edible and food preparation usage quite similar to honey, doesn't it? You can spread it on a slice of bread to eat directly or use it as a baking ingredient, but you probably wouldn't eat it by the spoonful straight from the container. (Or maybe that's how people usually eat peanut butter, I kind of don't want to know.)
    - eternalban 3y ago
      guilty as charged: spoon + jar = happy mouth.
DreamyCrab 3y ago
Yes, I do.
JohnFen 3y ago
I use food (including peanut butter) in cooking. I cook in the kitchen. Therefore peanut butter is a thing I use in the kitchen. Seems correct and proper to me. The ambiguity as I see it is that the kitchen isn't the only place I use peanut butter. I've eaten it (which I think counts as "using") in other rooms. I've even made peanut-butter sandwiches (properly "using" it) in the living room before.

version_five 3y ago

That's his whole point. It's possible to consider it technically correct, but it's a red herring.

eternalban 3y ago
Well, the alleged point is challenged. If playing this game, the questioner must constantly verify that the other party is using the language properly, you'll exhaust that 20 q limit rather quickly. - is it used in the kitchen? - yes. - [well, kitchen appliances, here we go ..] is it ..? ... - [aha. meat intelligence no speak proper English?] Is this thing you use in kitchen edible? - Oh, yeah. - [oh dear. we can not let meat machines govern this planet...]

smolder 3y ago

I use peanut butter as an ingredient for sandwiches, usually in my kitchen.

eternalban 3y ago
Yes. You use edible things in preparing or cooking food (which may happen in the kitchen). 'Use' maps to food prep (the act) but never to prep location. Only in cases where the thing has both general edible and food preparation usage -- "I use honey extensively in the kitchen" for example -- does "use" and "edible" make sense.
- yorwba 3y ago
  But peanut butter has general edible and food preparation usage quite similar to honey, doesn't it? You can spread it on a slice of bread to eat directly or use it as a baking ingredient, but you probably wouldn't eat it by the spoonful straight from the container. (Or maybe that's how people usually eat peanut butter, I kind of don't want to know.)
  - eternalban 3y ago
    guilty as charged: spoon + jar = happy mouth.

DreamyCrab 3y ago

Yes, I do.

JohnFen 3y ago

I use food (including peanut butter) in cooking. I cook in the kitchen. Therefore peanut butter is a thing I use in the kitchen. Seems correct and proper to me. The ambiguity as I see it is that the kitchen isn't the only place I use peanut butter. I've eaten it (which I think counts as "using") in other rooms. I've even made peanut-butter sandwiches (properly "using" it) in the living room before.