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Verify with a gov't issued ID e.g. IMEI/IMSI, ATPO

catchnear4321 3y ago
do you think most companies know how to securely store and transfer data? do you want them storing and transferring your identification papers?
- grumbel 3y ago
  They don't have to store it, they can delete it after account creation or just keep a hash in case they want to avoid account farming. Youtube is already collecting IDs in the EU if you want to view age-restricted content. Some countries also have ID cards that allow you to digitally prove you are 18 without revealing your ID, maybe that could be used for proving you're human as well (don't know if there is a way to prevent farming here).
  - catchnear4321 3y ago
    so the counter-argument is they only have to know how to securely transfer and delete it. which is very similar to securely transferring and storing it. in terms of required competency. and existing identification requirements don’t lessen the ask. lest wearing identification visibly at all times become the norm. at that point there isn’t an ask.
    - Spivak 3y ago
      Are we living in bizarro world here? This is not some crazy ask and what happens billions of times on Reddit with passwords. There are even 3rd party services that will verify IDs via API and you never even see the data.
      - catchnear4321 3y ago
        now government ids are just passwords? and it shouldn’t matter as much if it’s an extra participant in the conversation?
rob74 3y ago
That would be the end of Reddit though - or of any other social network that got this restrictive. Unless governments mandated it (which will probably be the end result of all this - no more anonymity on the Internet).
- intelVISA 3y ago
  Discord is decently popular in spite of requiring a phone number for their metadata collation service (/science endpoint)
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Discord only requires a phone number on servers that have it turned on as a requirement
pixl97 3y ago
So what do you do when when of your verified posters unintentionally says their trans, then you get a warrant for all their information?
gruez 3y ago
> Verify with a gov't issued ID e.g. IMEI/IMSI, ATPO I have no idea what ATPO is supposed to be, but IMEI/IMSI[1] is definitely not an government issued ID. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment...
imachine1980_ 3y ago
so you are magin critical information of people include eu...

do you think most companies know how to securely store and transfer data? do you want them storing and transferring your identification papers?

grumbel 3y ago
They don't have to store it, they can delete it after account creation or just keep a hash in case they want to avoid account farming. Youtube is already collecting IDs in the EU if you want to view age-restricted content. Some countries also have ID cards that allow you to digitally prove you are 18 without revealing your ID, maybe that could be used for proving you're human as well (don't know if there is a way to prevent farming here).
- catchnear4321 3y ago
  so the counter-argument is they only have to know how to securely transfer and delete it. which is very similar to securely transferring and storing it. in terms of required competency. and existing identification requirements don’t lessen the ask. lest wearing identification visibly at all times become the norm. at that point there isn’t an ask.
  - Spivak 3y ago
    Are we living in bizarro world here? This is not some crazy ask and what happens billions of times on Reddit with passwords. There are even 3rd party services that will verify IDs via API and you never even see the data.
    - catchnear4321 3y ago
      now government ids are just passwords? and it shouldn’t matter as much if it’s an extra participant in the conversation?

rob74 3y ago

That would be the end of Reddit though - or of any other social network that got this restrictive. Unless governments mandated it (which will probably be the end result of all this - no more anonymity on the Internet).

intelVISA 3y ago
Discord is decently popular in spite of requiring a phone number for their metadata collation service (/science endpoint)
- flangola7 3y ago
  Discord only requires a phone number on servers that have it turned on as a requirement

pixl97 3y ago

So what do you do when when of your verified posters unintentionally says their trans, then you get a warrant for all their information?

gruez 3y ago

> Verify with a gov't issued ID e.g. IMEI/IMSI, ATPO I have no idea what ATPO is supposed to be, but IMEI/IMSI[1] is definitely not an government issued ID. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment...

imachine1980_ 3y ago

so you are magin critical information of people include eu...