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> the Apple M1 laptop is an incredible value, offers 10x the performance the average person will need, with good battery life, a better OS/ecosystem...and its p

> the Apple M1 laptop is an incredible value, offers 10x the performance the average person will need, with good battery life, a better OS/ecosystem...and its priced right! Ehh... Is it? I use the M1 issued by my employer. It's an okay machine in terms of hardware, but I absolutely loathe MacOS. I certainly wouldn't pay for the M1 at the price they sell it, way over expensive toy. I vastly prefer my personal machine, which is a 4 year old Dell with Linux Mint installed. A joy to use, powerful enough for everything I do (development, gaming), and has a GPU I can use to play with StableDiffusion. The only thing where the M1 is the winner is in battery life... But 99% of the time I use my laptop on my desk anyway, power supply is no issue.

bearjaws 4y ago
> and has a GPU I can use to play with StableDiffusion. You can run stable diffusion faster on a M1 pro macbook pro than on a 1080ti 3900x desktop. DiffusionBee, I get .7s/iteration on a M1 using just 45w of power vs .98s/iteration on my 1080ti using over 5x that amount of power... I could upgrade to a 4080 and I am sure it would destroy it, but I doubt your laptop has a full power 4080 anyway. > But 99% of the time I use my laptop on my desk anyway, As someone who works remote and has to travel for work, battery life is incredibly important to me, and the M1 is just leaps above its competition. I can write code and build all day without even plugging in on the M1 16"...
- surgical_fire 4y ago
  > You can run stable diffusion faster on a M1 pro macbook pro than on a 1080ti 3900x desktop. DiffusionBee, I get .7s/iteration on a M1 using just 45w of power vs .98s/iteration on my 1080ti using over 5x that amount of power... At what cost? > I could upgrade to a 4080 and I am sure it would destroy it, but I doubt your laptop has a full power 4080 anyway. Mine has a GeForce 2060 RTX. Not in any way overpowered, but runs games and StableDiffusion fast enough. That at a fraction of the cost of an M1 Pro too, and the added benefit of not having to use MacOS
  - the_overseer 4y ago
    What exactly is so wrong with macOS? It's unix at the end of the day...
- ydnaclementine 4y ago
  1080ti released in 2017. M1 released in 2020
windowsrookie 4y ago
The M1 MacBook Air is regularly on sale for $800 or less. I'm not sure how you can consider that an "over expensive toy". It's competitive and often beating Windows Laptops at that price. The M1 chip is 2 years old now, and still competitive. I can understand hating the OS. But MacOS is my preferred OS, I really don't like Windows or Linux. MacOS just works. Linux and Windows always have some driver/kernel/etc. update that breaks something.
- surgical_fire 4y ago
  > The M1 MacBook Air is regularly on sale for $800 or less. I'm not sure how you can consider that an "over expensive toy". It comes with 8GB of RAM and 256GB of disk. Do you really need to ask why I call it an over expensive toy?
  - windowsrookie 4y ago
    Like I said it is competitive with other computers in its class. The Surface Laptop 5 is $1000 and also comes with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD. And MacOS Performas much better with 8GB than windows does.
    - surgical_fire 4y ago
      If your point is comparing over expensive toys, sure thing. I wouldn't buy either of those.

bearjaws 4y ago

> and has a GPU I can use to play with StableDiffusion. You can run stable diffusion faster on a M1 pro macbook pro than on a 1080ti 3900x desktop. DiffusionBee, I get .7s/iteration on a M1 using just 45w of power vs .98s/iteration on my 1080ti using over 5x that amount of power... I could upgrade to a 4080 and I am sure it would destroy it, but I doubt your laptop has a full power 4080 anyway. > But 99% of the time I use my laptop on my desk anyway, As someone who works remote and has to travel for work, battery life is incredibly important to me, and the M1 is just leaps above its competition. I can write code and build all day without even plugging in on the M1 16"...

surgical_fire 4y ago
> You can run stable diffusion faster on a M1 pro macbook pro than on a 1080ti 3900x desktop. DiffusionBee, I get .7s/iteration on a M1 using just 45w of power vs .98s/iteration on my 1080ti using over 5x that amount of power... At what cost? > I could upgrade to a 4080 and I am sure it would destroy it, but I doubt your laptop has a full power 4080 anyway. Mine has a GeForce 2060 RTX. Not in any way overpowered, but runs games and StableDiffusion fast enough. That at a fraction of the cost of an M1 Pro too, and the added benefit of not having to use MacOS
- the_overseer 4y ago
  What exactly is so wrong with macOS? It's unix at the end of the day...
ydnaclementine 4y ago
1080ti released in 2017. M1 released in 2020

windowsrookie 4y ago

The M1 MacBook Air is regularly on sale for $800 or less. I'm not sure how you can consider that an "over expensive toy". It's competitive and often beating Windows Laptops at that price. The M1 chip is 2 years old now, and still competitive. I can understand hating the OS. But MacOS is my preferred OS, I really don't like Windows or Linux. MacOS just works. Linux and Windows always have some driver/kernel/etc. update that breaks something.

surgical_fire 4y ago
> The M1 MacBook Air is regularly on sale for $800 or less. I'm not sure how you can consider that an "over expensive toy". It comes with 8GB of RAM and 256GB of disk. Do you really need to ask why I call it an over expensive toy?
- windowsrookie 4y ago
  Like I said it is competitive with other computers in its class. The Surface Laptop 5 is $1000 and also comes with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD. And MacOS Performas much better with 8GB than windows does.
  - surgical_fire 4y ago
    If your point is comparing over expensive toys, sure thing. I wouldn't buy either of those.