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Siri is without a doubt in my mind the most embarrassing thing Apple has had on the market in the past 20 years. With ChatGPT it is now feeling like Siri the b

by epaga 3y ago

Siri is without a doubt in my mind the most embarrassing thing Apple has had on the market in the past 20 years. With ChatGPT it is now feeling like Siri the broken tricycle is being compared to a Lamborghini. Honestly I would have been concerned if Apple employees weren’t frustrated with Siri. Pretty sure they need to take Siri out to pasture and start some LLM-based project from scratch.

qwertox 3y ago
It's odd to hear this. As an Android user I've always felt I'm missing out something really great, judging from the keynotes.
- dm319 3y ago
  Gotta say I'm not especially impressed with my Google assistant on my pixel either. The hit rate makes it worthwhile only when I have to use it.
- brookst 3y ago
  I use both regularly. Google assistant is far superior, coming in at annoyingly bad compared to Sirius infuriatingly bad.
- KyeRussell 3y ago
  I’ve used Android phones in the past, and Google’s tube person. Siri has IMO clearly gotten worse over time, on both my phone and my HomePods. I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is better at this point.
  - bagacrap 3y ago
    Google assistant is also getting worse over time
scottshambaugh 3y ago
I got chatGPT hooked up to a voice interface on my iPhone [1], and this comparison is exactly what the difference feels like. [1] https://theshamblog.com/chatgpt-on-an-iphone/ https://theshamblog.com/chatgpt-on-an-iphone/
pentae 3y ago
It's even more embarrassing when you look at the old Apple commercials introducing Siri up to 11 years ago, here's one from the rock when they introduced the iPhone 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhLGBY5_0zU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhLGBY5_0zU Anyone thats used Siri will watch that and laugh at how absurd it is that someone could get even one of those voice commands to work the first time. I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit for false advertising. I can barely get it to start a timer on my apple watch sometimes.
- BulgarianIdiot 3y ago
  Siri was better earlier on. In fact they were better before Apple bought them than ever after. And the primary reason is optimization of cost and scale. And something similar is happening to GPT although not to that extent. Bing has gotten worse over time as they use a pipeline of models, where smaller models serve most common and easily predictable tokens, while the full model only handles the hard stuff. Except... you can't tell always what's hard stuff or not, so Bing serves useless distracted answers ignoring user context from time to time.
- 4rt 3y ago
  The best bit about that ad is that my homepod replied to every 'hey siri ...' with an error. "Hey siri read me my last email" "I'm sorry I can't do that" "Hey siri list my reminders" "You can use the photos app to do that" "Hey siri show me my fashion line (?)" "You can try a search in your web browser"
- jakey_bakey 3y ago
  Great ad though, Apple's always had it
shever73 3y ago
A sad, but true, indictment. Siri on Apple Watch is brutally bad, it fails more than half the time when asking it to do something simple like setting a timer. I've disabled CarPlay because my car's voice control is much, much better than Siri.
rvnx 3y ago
It's not really "embarrassing". It's just old tech that was created in 2003 when the most common platform was Athlon XP CPUs, and that was okay-ish for its time, and it may take time to migrate current dataset.
- theonlybutlet 3y ago
  It is embarrassing, Google Assistant is it's competitor.
- wodenokoto 3y ago
  It was released in 2010. And since the release they have upgraded to use neural networks.
trinix912 3y ago
> With ChatGPT it is now feeling like Siri the broken tricycle is being compared to a Lamborghini. Just wait a bit. “Hey Siri call X” -“As an AI language learning model, I cannot know X from your contacts”
- qwertox 3y ago
  I know you say it as a joke, but the contact list could be a part of the hidden prompt, at least the names, so that it could then trigger an action with the proper name, which iOS would then understand.
  - valine 3y ago
    Ideally the model would insert an API call into its output to fetch the contacts first, then make the call. The scary part is asking the LLM to read your messages. Imagine someone texts you an LLM jailbreak. Siri might not be Siri anymore after it finishes reading.

by epaga 3y ago

qwertox 3y ago

It's odd to hear this. As an Android user I've always felt I'm missing out something really great, judging from the keynotes.

dm319 3y ago
Gotta say I'm not especially impressed with my Google assistant on my pixel either. The hit rate makes it worthwhile only when I have to use it.
brookst 3y ago
I use both regularly. Google assistant is far superior, coming in at annoyingly bad compared to Sirius infuriatingly bad.
KyeRussell 3y ago
I’ve used Android phones in the past, and Google’s tube person. Siri has IMO clearly gotten worse over time, on both my phone and my HomePods. I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is better at this point.
- bagacrap 3y ago
  Google assistant is also getting worse over time

scottshambaugh 3y ago

I got chatGPT hooked up to a voice interface on my iPhone [1], and this comparison is exactly what the difference feels like. [1] https://theshamblog.com/chatgpt-on-an-iphone/ https://theshamblog.com/chatgpt-on-an-iphone/

pentae 3y ago

It's even more embarrassing when you look at the old Apple commercials introducing Siri up to 11 years ago, here's one from the rock when they introduced the iPhone 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhLGBY5_0zU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhLGBY5_0zU Anyone thats used Siri will watch that and laugh at how absurd it is that someone could get even one of those voice commands to work the first time. I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit for false advertising. I can barely get it to start a timer on my apple watch sometimes.

BulgarianIdiot 3y ago
Siri was better earlier on. In fact they were better before Apple bought them than ever after. And the primary reason is optimization of cost and scale. And something similar is happening to GPT although not to that extent. Bing has gotten worse over time as they use a pipeline of models, where smaller models serve most common and easily predictable tokens, while the full model only handles the hard stuff. Except... you can't tell always what's hard stuff or not, so Bing serves useless distracted answers ignoring user context from time to time.
4rt 3y ago
The best bit about that ad is that my homepod replied to every 'hey siri ...' with an error. "Hey siri read me my last email" "I'm sorry I can't do that" "Hey siri list my reminders" "You can use the photos app to do that" "Hey siri show me my fashion line (?)" "You can try a search in your web browser"
jakey_bakey 3y ago
Great ad though, Apple's always had it

shever73 3y ago

A sad, but true, indictment. Siri on Apple Watch is brutally bad, it fails more than half the time when asking it to do something simple like setting a timer. I've disabled CarPlay because my car's voice control is much, much better than Siri.

rvnx 3y ago

It's not really "embarrassing". It's just old tech that was created in 2003 when the most common platform was Athlon XP CPUs, and that was okay-ish for its time, and it may take time to migrate current dataset.

theonlybutlet 3y ago
It is embarrassing, Google Assistant is it's competitor.
wodenokoto 3y ago
It was released in 2010. And since the release they have upgraded to use neural networks.

trinix912 3y ago

> With ChatGPT it is now feeling like Siri the broken tricycle is being compared to a Lamborghini. Just wait a bit. “Hey Siri call X” -“As an AI language learning model, I cannot know X from your contacts”

qwertox 3y ago
I know you say it as a joke, but the contact list could be a part of the hidden prompt, at least the names, so that it could then trigger an action with the proper name, which iOS would then understand.
- valine 3y ago
  Ideally the model would insert an API call into its output to fetch the contacts first, then make the call. The scary part is asking the LLM to read your messages. Imagine someone texts you an LLM jailbreak. Siri might not be Siri anymore after it finishes reading.