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I think you misunderstand. The main trouble is the amount of steps. The probability that some step may fail and derail the experience is important also but seco

by dzdt 3y ago

I think you misunderstand. The main trouble is the amount of steps. The probability that some step may fail and derail the experience is important also but secondary. The fact that some steps are unpleasant is also important. Scenario: kid 1 has a friend over and wants to show them the occulus. Materials to locate: 1. occulus headset 2. occulus left controller 3. occulus right controller 4. occulus charger (to recharge when session is done or else next time is a bust) 5. tv remote (so kid can play and friend watch or vice-versa; otherwise its non-interactive turns and not socially fun) 6. chromecast remote (screensharing doesnt work directly to tv, it needs another device to receive) 7. () parent (to help set up the sharing, which requires navigating unfriendly menus on 3 devices with 3 controllers not all of which can be seen at the same time) 8. () parent's laptop (in the event the device facebook got logged out, it needs another device to log it back in) 9. () parent's password notebook You're suggesting to add: 10. BoboVr battery strap 11. BoboVr extra battery 12. BoboVr charging dock When everything is located, pregaming steps are: 1. clear area, including move the heavy coffee table back 2. start tv 3. set tv input to chromecast 4. start chromecast 5. start occulus 6. adjust headset straps 7. with headset on, find vr menu to cast occulus 8. with headset off, find chromecast menu to accept screencast 9. with headset on, reset play area and floor level 10. () with headset on, start facebook login 11. () with headset off, with parent's laptop log into device facebook account 12. () with headset both off and on, copy code from vr screen to laptop Steps with a (*) shouldn't have to happen every time. But the whole process is daunting. Add to it the device is unpleasant to wear and causes vertigo... not worth it.

Auracle 3y ago
I've never been logged out, even on my headset with two accounts. I don't disagree that there's too much friction to just starting the thing up and playing though, and casting what you're doing - something I've only ever done once - doesn't work well. You can also use a tablet/phone with the Oculus app, for what it's worth. But still, you might want to try my suggestion. The strap is much quicker to adjust, the battery on the back balances out the weight, and if you had the dock with two batteries you wouldn't ever need to worry about charging the actual headset itself. Keep in mind that if you're only using it as your own personal device a lot of those steps/gripes go away completely. You'd only have the clear area steps and possibly resetting the play area, though mine usually finds it. My biggest personal gripe is how sometimes it just randomly decides to take an extra minute starting up, where you're in the passthrough type mode but it hasn't found the play area. I don't know if it's looking for it and can't find it, doing an update in the background, etc.
krashidov 3y ago
Thank you for writing this out. I had to get an Oculus for work during Covid (I regret it to this day I knew I would only use it once). I didn't have a kids to deal with but this really sums up why I never turned it on. So much hassle factor, and just thinking about a login screen in VR makes me want to throw it on the ground. I don't understand how the PMs at Meta didn't realize any of this

by dzdt 3y ago

Auracle 3y ago

I've never been logged out, even on my headset with two accounts. I don't disagree that there's too much friction to just starting the thing up and playing though, and casting what you're doing - something I've only ever done once - doesn't work well. You can also use a tablet/phone with the Oculus app, for what it's worth. But still, you might want to try my suggestion. The strap is much quicker to adjust, the battery on the back balances out the weight, and if you had the dock with two batteries you wouldn't ever need to worry about charging the actual headset itself. Keep in mind that if you're only using it as your own personal device a lot of those steps/gripes go away completely. You'd only have the clear area steps and possibly resetting the play area, though mine usually finds it. My biggest personal gripe is how sometimes it just randomly decides to take an extra minute starting up, where you're in the passthrough type mode but it hasn't found the play area. I don't know if it's looking for it and can't find it, doing an update in the background, etc.

krashidov 3y ago

Thank you for writing this out. I had to get an Oculus for work during Covid (I regret it to this day I knew I would only use it once). I didn't have a kids to deal with but this really sums up why I never turned it on. So much hassle factor, and just thinking about a login screen in VR makes me want to throw it on the ground. I don't understand how the PMs at Meta didn't realize any of this