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Numerous times I’ve booked direct with the hotels and it’s cheaper than or same as 3rd party.

by ww520 4y ago

labster 4y ago
Booking.com requires the cheapest price, unless you are talking about the price from the hotel’s rewards program, which they will push very hard. It’s a contract loophole that works out for everyone except the non-savvy (or privacy-conscious) consumer.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  > except the non-savvy (or privacy-conscious) consumer. Every single hotel I have been to already requires your ID and records your information at check in. In fact, it is required by pretty much all city laws in the US. I also would not want to stay in a hotel that does not require it.
  - nibbleshifter 4y ago
    Even in countries where recording guest ID is a legal requirement, it can often be circumvented.
  - labster 4y ago
    The rewards programs use your information to market to you, and sometimes third parties. Terms and conditions vary. As always, consult a lawyer before clicking accept on any EULA.
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      Of course they do. Grocery stores, airlines, car rentals, hotel brands, retail stores, everyone has a rewards program for a discount and they all have my info. So far I do not receive any junk mail other than credit card offers, which I take advantage of for the bonus.
- mikepurvis 4y ago
  Similar dynamic with credit cards, where retailers are forbidden from offering a cash discount. Though some skirt this using rewards programs— in Canada for example, Canadian Tire gives you more Canadian Tire "money" if you pay with debit or cash.
  - account42 4y ago
    Best price requirements should be straight up illegal IMO.
    - mikepurvis 4y ago
      In fairness, if credit card processors hadn't been permitted to require that and customers had had to pay the fee, credit cards would never have achieved liftoff. Which is maybe as much of an argument as any, if it had put pressure on the processors to minimize or eliminate the fee and find alternative revenue streams to sustain themselves and build out the network. Instead we got a world where the fee has been static forever and the gains from automation have gone to cashback and rewards programs for customers, ultimately making it more expensive to pay with cash.
- ww520 4y ago
  That's simply not true. I just did search to see if anything has changed. I searched for hotels in the Seattle area for a 5/18 reservation. The 3rd item in a hotel's result [1] is the direct hotel's price. It matches the same reservation on the hotel's website [2]. Another hotel's result [3] has the lowest price as direct booking. [1] https://i.imgur.com/XtDkLZj.png https://i.imgur.com/XtDkLZj.png [2] https://i.imgur.com/gHJgB3I.png https://i.imgur.com/gHJgB3I.png [3] https://i.imgur.com/MVVqmFG.png https://i.imgur.com/MVVqmFG.png
- scarface74 4y ago
  For reference: to be part of a hotels “rewards program” just requires you to create a free account. What privacy concerns are you alleviating by not signing up for the hotels loyalty program? They are going to ask for ID when you get there and many require a credit card hold.
  - account42 4y ago
    You can read the terms of service and privacy agreement for that "free account" to find out. In general, the Hotel would not be offering a rewards program if it did not benefit them more than it cost. At the very least they are going to use your "free account" to try to get you to use that Hotel (chain) more.
    - scarface_74 4y ago
      They will be getting that information from you anyway when you check in. Who do you think is more likely to sell your information to third parties - a hotel brand that has every incentive to keep your information to themselves or an aggregator? > cost. At the very least they are going to use your "free account" to try to get you to use that Hotel (chain) more. And a third party aggregator won’t try to get you to use their site more?

Numerous times I’ve booked direct with the hotels and it’s cheaper than or same as 3rd party.

by ww520 4y ago

Numerous times I’ve booked direct with the hotels and it’s cheaper than or same as 3rd party.

Booking.com requires the cheapest price, unless you are talking about the price from the hotel’s rewards program, which they will push very hard. It’s a contract loophole that works out for everyone except the non-savvy (or privacy-conscious) consumer.

lotsofpulp 4y ago
> except the non-savvy (or privacy-conscious) consumer. Every single hotel I have been to already requires your ID and records your information at check in. In fact, it is required by pretty much all city laws in the US. I also would not want to stay in a hotel that does not require it.
- nibbleshifter 4y ago
  Even in countries where recording guest ID is a legal requirement, it can often be circumvented.
- labster 4y ago
  The rewards programs use your information to market to you, and sometimes third parties. Terms and conditions vary. As always, consult a lawyer before clicking accept on any EULA.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Of course they do. Grocery stores, airlines, car rentals, hotel brands, retail stores, everyone has a rewards program for a discount and they all have my info. So far I do not receive any junk mail other than credit card offers, which I take advantage of for the bonus.
mikepurvis 4y ago
Similar dynamic with credit cards, where retailers are forbidden from offering a cash discount. Though some skirt this using rewards programs— in Canada for example, Canadian Tire gives you more Canadian Tire "money" if you pay with debit or cash.
- account42 4y ago
  Best price requirements should be straight up illegal IMO.
  - mikepurvis 4y ago
    In fairness, if credit card processors hadn't been permitted to require that and customers had had to pay the fee, credit cards would never have achieved liftoff. Which is maybe as much of an argument as any, if it had put pressure on the processors to minimize or eliminate the fee and find alternative revenue streams to sustain themselves and build out the network. Instead we got a world where the fee has been static forever and the gains from automation have gone to cashback and rewards programs for customers, ultimately making it more expensive to pay with cash.
ww520 4y ago
That's simply not true. I just did search to see if anything has changed. I searched for hotels in the Seattle area for a 5/18 reservation. The 3rd item in a hotel's result [1] is the direct hotel's price. It matches the same reservation on the hotel's website [2]. Another hotel's result [3] has the lowest price as direct booking. [1] https://i.imgur.com/XtDkLZj.png https://i.imgur.com/XtDkLZj.png [2] https://i.imgur.com/gHJgB3I.png https://i.imgur.com/gHJgB3I.png [3] https://i.imgur.com/MVVqmFG.png https://i.imgur.com/MVVqmFG.png
scarface74 4y ago
For reference: to be part of a hotels “rewards program” just requires you to create a free account. What privacy concerns are you alleviating by not signing up for the hotels loyalty program? They are going to ask for ID when you get there and many require a credit card hold.
- account42 4y ago
  You can read the terms of service and privacy agreement for that "free account" to find out. In general, the Hotel would not be offering a rewards program if it did not benefit them more than it cost. At the very least they are going to use your "free account" to try to get you to use that Hotel (chain) more.
  - scarface_74 4y ago
    They will be getting that information from you anyway when you check in. Who do you think is more likely to sell your information to third parties - a hotel brand that has every incentive to keep your information to themselves or an aggregator? > cost. At the very least they are going to use your "free account" to try to get you to use that Hotel (chain) more. And a third party aggregator won’t try to get you to use their site more?