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Always worth tracking down the sprinkler shut off valve in your residence/place of work. If you’re in a high rise it‘ll be the big red wheel on the sprinkler ma

Always worth tracking down the sprinkler shut off valve in your residence/place of work. If you’re in a high rise it‘ll be the big red wheel on the sprinkler main in the fire stairs. If it’s a spurious activation you can just shut it off yourself, you don’t need to ask anybody’s permission. The fire department is always going to prioritize safety of life, and after all it’s not their stuff getting soaked.

Kon-Peki 4y ago
> The fire department is always going to prioritize safety of life, and after all it’s not their stuff getting soaked. They won't hesitate to smash your stuff or break down your walls either. Being in a fire is no joke. You've got to be crazy to think that your stuff is important. It's not.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  Anyone talking up firefighters like this clearly hasn't been around them much. They're boys with toys that they don't frequently get to use and they work for the government. Follow the incentives. They'll do their jobs but they don't give a lot of fucks about things like "unnecessary property damage" and "other people's financial well being" and anything else not written in their KPIs. I used to drive tow truck. I can't count the number of cars they totaled peeling the roof off (granted some were totaled anyway) because that was easy and cutting a door off was hard. And don't get me started on them and their stupid stands they use to prop shit up in the most questionable of ways...
  - local_crmdgeon 4y ago
    Firefighters are personally incentivized to take photos like this: https://nypost.com/2022/01/10/fireman-in-post-photo-recalls-moment-he-saved-baby-from-blaze/ https://nypost.com/2022/01/10/fireman-in-post-photo-recalls-.... They are not incentivized to protect your stuff, that's what insurance does. Good. I want you to save me and my family from dying in a fucking fire. This thread is obsessed with saving Funko Pop collections for some reason??
    - dsfyu404ed 4y ago
      That's just a textbook appeal to emotion. Most of their calls are mundane stuff. And they leave a pretty decently wide path of destruction in doing that. We're talking like mundane situations where there is no urgency and no need to tear shit up in the interest of time. I once arrived to a minor rollover after the cops but before fire. Nobody injured. Occupant trapped because she was a large lady and couldn't release her seatbelt upside down and was having difficulty unlocking the car because side curtain airbags. I offered to flip the car and treat it like a lockout. "Customer" was fine with it. Cop was iffy. FD showed up, didn't want to hear it, broke the window, unlocked the car, opened the door, cut her belt rather than release it and dropped her on her face and then had difficulty getting her out. Now I get that they have "procedures" but this seems like a forest for the trees situation. Or they'll show up, shut down two lanes for a minor fire on the shoulder and not move the trucks until the car is loaded on a tow truck and gone. Supposedly it's to keep them safe from being hit by traffic. Meanwhile here I am not blocking traffic to recover shit that broke down. Sure, they'll save a life if the situation presents itself but they sure don't care about being tidy about it.
      - riceart 4y ago
        You have any real data to back this up rather than some anecdotes? You sound really butthurt.
    - sbierwagen 4y ago
      Hello 16 day old account. Can't imagine why you've been banned before. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35714352 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35714352
      - local_crmdgeon 4y ago
        I make many accounts because I don't like people snooping through my history. The Redditism of "I've looked back 10 years in your history, and will dismiss your comment because of something you said in 2015" is not a discussion I'm interested in.
- rectang 4y ago
  Fires develop crazy fast, too. Horrifying real-time footage of The Station nightclub fire is on YouTube. Within 2 minutes of ignition, fire is leaping out the windows. By 6 minutes in, the entire building is burning like a torch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO0ioCCiEe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO0ioCCiEe8 Firefighters arrive in 5 minutes.
newZWhoDis 4y ago
True, and if you mess up how are they gonna know? Your fingerprints won’t survive the fire!
local_crmdgeon 4y ago
Please do not disable or tamper with your buildings sprinkler systems. You will not care about your stuff when you're in jail for negligent manslaughter.

Kon-Peki 4y ago

> The fire department is always going to prioritize safety of life, and after all it’s not their stuff getting soaked. They won't hesitate to smash your stuff or break down your walls either. Being in a fire is no joke. You've got to be crazy to think that your stuff is important. It's not.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
Anyone talking up firefighters like this clearly hasn't been around them much. They're boys with toys that they don't frequently get to use and they work for the government. Follow the incentives. They'll do their jobs but they don't give a lot of fucks about things like "unnecessary property damage" and "other people's financial well being" and anything else not written in their KPIs. I used to drive tow truck. I can't count the number of cars they totaled peeling the roof off (granted some were totaled anyway) because that was easy and cutting a door off was hard. And don't get me started on them and their stupid stands they use to prop shit up in the most questionable of ways...
- local_crmdgeon 4y ago
  Firefighters are personally incentivized to take photos like this: https://nypost.com/2022/01/10/fireman-in-post-photo-recalls-moment-he-saved-baby-from-blaze/ https://nypost.com/2022/01/10/fireman-in-post-photo-recalls-.... They are not incentivized to protect your stuff, that's what insurance does. Good. I want you to save me and my family from dying in a fucking fire. This thread is obsessed with saving Funko Pop collections for some reason??
  - dsfyu404ed 4y ago
    That's just a textbook appeal to emotion. Most of their calls are mundane stuff. And they leave a pretty decently wide path of destruction in doing that. We're talking like mundane situations where there is no urgency and no need to tear shit up in the interest of time. I once arrived to a minor rollover after the cops but before fire. Nobody injured. Occupant trapped because she was a large lady and couldn't release her seatbelt upside down and was having difficulty unlocking the car because side curtain airbags. I offered to flip the car and treat it like a lockout. "Customer" was fine with it. Cop was iffy. FD showed up, didn't want to hear it, broke the window, unlocked the car, opened the door, cut her belt rather than release it and dropped her on her face and then had difficulty getting her out. Now I get that they have "procedures" but this seems like a forest for the trees situation. Or they'll show up, shut down two lanes for a minor fire on the shoulder and not move the trucks until the car is loaded on a tow truck and gone. Supposedly it's to keep them safe from being hit by traffic. Meanwhile here I am not blocking traffic to recover shit that broke down. Sure, they'll save a life if the situation presents itself but they sure don't care about being tidy about it.
    - riceart 4y ago
      You have any real data to back this up rather than some anecdotes? You sound really butthurt.
  - sbierwagen 4y ago
    Hello 16 day old account. Can't imagine why you've been banned before. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35714352 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35714352
    - local_crmdgeon 4y ago
      I make many accounts because I don't like people snooping through my history. The Redditism of "I've looked back 10 years in your history, and will dismiss your comment because of something you said in 2015" is not a discussion I'm interested in.
rectang 4y ago
Fires develop crazy fast, too. Horrifying real-time footage of The Station nightclub fire is on YouTube. Within 2 minutes of ignition, fire is leaping out the windows. By 6 minutes in, the entire building is burning like a torch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO0ioCCiEe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO0ioCCiEe8 Firefighters arrive in 5 minutes.

newZWhoDis 4y ago

True, and if you mess up how are they gonna know? Your fingerprints won’t survive the fire!

local_crmdgeon 4y ago

Please do not disable or tamper with your buildings sprinkler systems. You will not care about your stuff when you're in jail for negligent manslaughter.