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I have no numbers on this, but I reckon that the vast majority of twitter users who rarely tweet, don't engage in the outrage du jour, and aren't on Twitter to

by danem 3y ago

I have no numbers on this, but I reckon that the vast majority of twitter users who rarely tweet, don't engage in the outrage du jour, and aren't on Twitter to promote themselves have experienced little to no change since Elon has taken over. I know this is true for me at least. All of the things that made Twitter good and terrible are still there. From what I can tell, most of the loudest Elon-Twitter detractors are people with some ideological bone to pick. They dislike Elon, they dislike centralized platforms, or name your cause. To me, none of this portends an imminent mass exodus to slightly more complicated, vastly less popular Twitter clones.

Hamuko 3y ago
Why would I be angry at Elon taking over Twitter if I had a dislike of centralised platforms? I wouldn't even be on Twitter in the first place. And yeah, people who use the platform less will see less changes. That seems almost obvious. But that doesn't mean that there aren't any changes. And some of those changes are very obvious, like the fact that the maximum post length on this micro-blogging service is no longer 240 characters, but 10,000 characters. If anything, your hand-waving of nu-Twitter criticism seems more ideological than anything. "They're not valid criticisms, they just hate Elon."
- danem 3y ago
  My point is that many people who make predictions on this topic come to conclusions by fixating on largely irrelevant details. Are people on Twitter because it's a "mirco-blogging service" or because they find funny memes, follow people they like, get information they value, find the UX addicting, and everyone already has it? Unless those core value propositions change (which I haven't seen evidence of) the changes to tweet length, blue checks, metrics visibility, etc won't get users to leave for a more complicated alternative.
rsynnott 3y ago
While I don’t really buy bluesky as a replacement, the “people who pay show up first in the replies, not people who were chronologically first or people whose stuff is popular” feels _extremely_ corrosive to any social network; even dating/hookup sites, which invented this dynamic, tend to try to moderate it these days. That, if nothing else, seems likely to break Twitter. if you look at nearly any widely-viewed tweet now, the first few thousand replies are from irrelevant, uninteresting blue-ticks. This is clearly worse than how it was before for most users.
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by danem 3y ago

Hamuko 3y ago

Why would I be angry at Elon taking over Twitter if I had a dislike of centralised platforms? I wouldn't even be on Twitter in the first place. And yeah, people who use the platform less will see less changes. That seems almost obvious. But that doesn't mean that there aren't any changes. And some of those changes are very obvious, like the fact that the maximum post length on this micro-blogging service is no longer 240 characters, but 10,000 characters. If anything, your hand-waving of nu-Twitter criticism seems more ideological than anything. "They're not valid criticisms, they just hate Elon."

danem 3y ago
My point is that many people who make predictions on this topic come to conclusions by fixating on largely irrelevant details. Are people on Twitter because it's a "mirco-blogging service" or because they find funny memes, follow people they like, get information they value, find the UX addicting, and everyone already has it? Unless those core value propositions change (which I haven't seen evidence of) the changes to tweet length, blue checks, metrics visibility, etc won't get users to leave for a more complicated alternative.

rsynnott 3y ago

While I don’t really buy bluesky as a replacement, the “people who pay show up first in the replies, not people who were chronologically first or people whose stuff is popular” feels _extremely_ corrosive to any social network; even dating/hookup sites, which invented this dynamic, tend to try to moderate it these days. That, if nothing else, seems likely to break Twitter. if you look at nearly any widely-viewed tweet now, the first few thousand replies are from irrelevant, uninteresting blue-ticks. This is clearly worse than how it was before for most users.

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