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Also, the OP pretty much says they are not in Ukraine in a comment: > I think Probably the war will end because Russia and America are busy in Ukraine

netsharc 4y ago
Depressing world facts in April 2023: "I'm in a war zone." "Oh yeah, which one?" At least in March 2023 it was "slightly better" that people would go straight to assuming the answer is "Ukraine". Any other active wars going on[1]? Maybe Myanmar.. [1] Result for "active wars in 2023" gives me a page of potential conflicts: https://www.cfr.org/report/conflicts-watch-2023 https://www.cfr.org/report/conflicts-watch-2023
- pastacacioepepe 4y ago
  > At least in March 2023 it was "slightly better" that people would go straight to assuming the answer is "Ukraine". Ignorants perhaps. Several other active conflicts predate Ukraine's war[0]. It's just that nobody cared much, maybe as the people dying weren't white? Wanna have fun? Pair the Wikipedia link about armed conflicts with the stats about the major arms exporters[1]. .0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflict... .1: https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-the-leadings-exporters-of-conventional-weapons/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-t...
- perth 4y ago
  Don’t forget the not often talked about Colombian Conflict!
- beardog 4y ago
  The tigray war is kind of paused right now and Eritrea has not signed onto the ceasefire, so I would still treat it as a war zone if I were to travel there. The Nagorno-Karabakh conflict could reignite if Azerbaijan wants to take advantage of Russia's distraction. The Yemeni and Syrian civil wars are still not resolved Western Sahara has a sort of no-mans land and a land mine problem and had clashes in 2020. India's borders with Pakistan see skirmishes from time to time. A similar situation may arise with India and China too as water and geopolitical issues mount.
  - beardog 4y ago
    Correction, seems the China-India situation has already become similar with clashes in 2020, 2021, and 2022.
- andrepd 4y ago
  > Depressing world facts in April 2023: Has there ever been a point in at least the last 2500 years where there weren't multiple active warzones in the world?
  - labster 4y ago
    > Depressing human nature facts in any year FTFY
- bragr 4y ago
  >"Oh yeah, which one?" I mean, when has there ever not been several regional wars going?
  - lucumo 4y ago
    That happened a couple of times, but that was because everyone was fighting in one big war.
    - noduerme 4y ago
      Another way of looking at it is that there were so many regional wars between the Spanish Civil War and the bombing of Nagasaki that at some point we just started historically lumping them all together.
User23 4y ago
Yeah I don’t think it’s common knowledge in the west that our governments are doing the color revolution dance in Sudan.
- noduerme 4y ago
  Nothing about the Sudan fight between two warlords (the president and the vice president) has any of the hallmarks of color revolutions or of western-backed popular uprisings. There is no evidence of western military intervention, apart from hasty and late withdrawals of embassy staff. [edit: Which rather illustrate that the US and Europe had no clue that war was about to break out]. There is, moreover, no stated ideology or cause behind either side - which is a giveaway that it's simply a local power struggle. To argue CIA backing must exist in a case where it seems manifestly ridiculous weakens the (already tenuous) argument that the actual color revolutions required some form of western prompting.
  - shigawire 4y ago
    Part of the cause is due to the warlords needing to seize power rather than handing it to civilian government established in the latest revolution.
    - noduerme 4y ago
      > warlords needing to seize power Really? They needed to? And if these individuals needed to destroy their country in order to save it, that is also the West's fault for providing the population some encouragement to overthrow the last warlord?
      - s1artibartfast 4y ago
        I think that is a very interesting question. Do you have any moral culpability if you encourage people two points there are country into chaos and messed up, but for a noble cause. If you encourage people to revolt and they all die, is that blood on your hands or should you pat yourself on the back

netsharc 4y ago

Depressing world facts in April 2023: "I'm in a war zone." "Oh yeah, which one?" At least in March 2023 it was "slightly better" that people would go straight to assuming the answer is "Ukraine". Any other active wars going on[1]? Maybe Myanmar.. [1] Result for "active wars in 2023" gives me a page of potential conflicts: https://www.cfr.org/report/conflicts-watch-2023 https://www.cfr.org/report/conflicts-watch-2023

pastacacioepepe 4y ago
> At least in March 2023 it was "slightly better" that people would go straight to assuming the answer is "Ukraine". Ignorants perhaps. Several other active conflicts predate Ukraine's war[0]. It's just that nobody cared much, maybe as the people dying weren't white? Wanna have fun? Pair the Wikipedia link about armed conflicts with the stats about the major arms exporters[1]. .0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflict... .1: https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-the-leadings-exporters-of-conventional-weapons/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-t...
perth 4y ago
Don’t forget the not often talked about Colombian Conflict!
beardog 4y ago
The tigray war is kind of paused right now and Eritrea has not signed onto the ceasefire, so I would still treat it as a war zone if I were to travel there. The Nagorno-Karabakh conflict could reignite if Azerbaijan wants to take advantage of Russia's distraction. The Yemeni and Syrian civil wars are still not resolved Western Sahara has a sort of no-mans land and a land mine problem and had clashes in 2020. India's borders with Pakistan see skirmishes from time to time. A similar situation may arise with India and China too as water and geopolitical issues mount.
- beardog 4y ago
  Correction, seems the China-India situation has already become similar with clashes in 2020, 2021, and 2022.
andrepd 4y ago
> Depressing world facts in April 2023: Has there ever been a point in at least the last 2500 years where there weren't multiple active warzones in the world?
- labster 4y ago
  > Depressing human nature facts in any year FTFY
bragr 4y ago
>"Oh yeah, which one?" I mean, when has there ever not been several regional wars going?
- lucumo 4y ago
  That happened a couple of times, but that was because everyone was fighting in one big war.
  - noduerme 4y ago
    Another way of looking at it is that there were so many regional wars between the Spanish Civil War and the bombing of Nagasaki that at some point we just started historically lumping them all together.

User23 4y ago

Yeah I don’t think it’s common knowledge in the west that our governments are doing the color revolution dance in Sudan.

noduerme 4y ago
Nothing about the Sudan fight between two warlords (the president and the vice president) has any of the hallmarks of color revolutions or of western-backed popular uprisings. There is no evidence of western military intervention, apart from hasty and late withdrawals of embassy staff. [edit: Which rather illustrate that the US and Europe had no clue that war was about to break out]. There is, moreover, no stated ideology or cause behind either side - which is a giveaway that it's simply a local power struggle. To argue CIA backing must exist in a case where it seems manifestly ridiculous weakens the (already tenuous) argument that the actual color revolutions required some form of western prompting.
- shigawire 4y ago
  Part of the cause is due to the warlords needing to seize power rather than handing it to civilian government established in the latest revolution.
  - noduerme 4y ago
    > warlords needing to seize power Really? They needed to? And if these individuals needed to destroy their country in order to save it, that is also the West's fault for providing the population some encouragement to overthrow the last warlord?
    - s1artibartfast 4y ago
      I think that is a very interesting question. Do you have any moral culpability if you encourage people two points there are country into chaos and messed up, but for a noble cause. If you encourage people to revolt and they all die, is that blood on your hands or should you pat yourself on the back